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Oh absolutely the secondary is more of a challenge now which is a good thing. With Teddy he was efficient but early on some people were pointing out his penchant for short throws and wobbly long passes. Okung was a different guy for sure but he was serviceable he just didn't stay on the field long enough. The bitchiness factor is largely to do with how things ended last season. There were fans who rode the Teddy train all the way off a cliff because they didn't want to acknowledge his faults until the bitter end and some never did. Darnold is younger has better tools and has higher upside than Teddy so the bar should be higher to say the least.

Do that many current teams even have designed run plays for quarterbacks anymore beyond the goal line or 3rd and 4th down situations? Mobile quarterbacks are still going to be very much a part of the future of the league but running qb's like Cam with a substantial number of designed runs are likely to become less common. In any event there is a balance to be had. The Panthers did not find that balance and they failed to build with surrounding talent. Thus the results we ended up with.

I've given Rhule a mulligan on the Teddy signing because he was not a failure in the sense that he was a terrible quarterback he just didn't have the killer instinct to finish games and he couldn't handle criticism. That being said his limitations that held us back were on game tape and should have been clearer to Joe and Matt if they were truly that familiar with him. I can only take them at their words and they had plenty to say about him last spring. Now they are all on the clock with Sam. It is an uphill battle given expectations are for him to make a rather miraculous turnaround in one offseason. That may not be fair but that's how sports go and how fans think. The best thing Rhule and Co have going for them right now are the additions at other positions they have made in a short time. But like any other team or staff the pesky quarterback conundrum can and will sink even the nicest ship.

I believe this is my first camp thread remarking on his passes. But also it was specifically about a pick six though. That detail will garner a little more attention. Look we all know Sam has the arm and the ability it boils down to that next step. We want him to take it but this is the stuff he has to get out of his system now.

#1 threw high passes and turnovers in camp and there was plenty of discussion about it no different than now. Idk why the kid gloves all the sudden but I guess memories get a little fuzzy.

Our last franchise qb was scrutinized on everything from his throws to how he sat on the bench to how he celebrated. Scrutiny comes with the position chief

He's a fourth year qb with a history of iffy turnovers. Not judging off one practice just looking to see consistency built up. The weapons are there he just has to make the right throw and the right decision. That's been the question all along. As someone used to say it is what it is.

Yikes. First career pass was a pick six and he threw two in the same game last year. Now is the time to get it figured out.

The Panthers can implement whatever media policies they want but it seems like it would be a good idea to increase fan engagement not make things less fun. Especially if they want to avoid the Panthers home turf being overrun with fans of other teams like previous years. These posters roaming the boards looking to jump on anyone who says a negative word are hilarious. Seven winning seasons in 25 years and they act like this is a dynasty above any and all reproach

@SBBlue This is "lashing out".

Always figured such was the case based on what Tepper gave up to lure him to Carolina. So are we still entertaining the notion that Rhule wasn't running the show when Marty Hurney was still here last year?

Based on his almost conflicting thoughts there you could argue he is either on the fence or not wanting to give away what they're thinking just yet. Guessing a little bit of both. What he says about Moton being valuable where he is and the best rushers coming from the right is pretty important in this context though.

Do you want me to get you some crayons?

The Panthers been slowly nudging him on this for weeks now but we have heard very little other than vague remarks so this is a start but hardly settled and right tackle is also a question. Anyone declaring victory this early hasn't watched the team much the last few years.

So he is officially our left tackle? It's a yes or no question. Apparently you have made it your mission to live on here and try to run off anyone who isn't wholly embracing your echo chamber mentality but if you want a thriving community folks like you are going to limit the huddle to a handful of homers just shouting at each other. If a community with no critics is good for you by all means carry on with your routine Scot.

Seeing is believing. Come get me when it's official like a referee whistle. Until then it just sounds like he is willing to fill in if needed. Some of you take it way too personally if everyone isn't in lockstep with the company line of our front office. You aren't getting paid to be the most loyal fan. Enjoy your weekend fellas.

If you want Sam to elevate his game and not revert to old habits out of the gate you should be just a tad concerned about left tackle. With each day that passes it looks more clear Moton isn't keen on making the switch and I can't honestly blame him.

He's gone it might be time to start looking for the next fall guy because odds are this "versatile" oline could be swiss cheese by the fall.

Two of those teams have a Lombardi trophy within the last decade to ease their pain at least. Carolina has one of the worst with nothing to show for it. Keep the dream alive though

So is this the Teddy appreciation thread? I'm sure Denver has plenty of room left on the bandwagon if some of you want to take the plunge.

There are really folks out there who believe a newly hired 60 million dollar head coach and the owner who hired him that keeps a huge set of brass testicles on his desk just let a former radio host and currently twice terminated general manager take the reigns without a say. This is entertaining.

Two yards and a cloud of dust was rubber stamped by the current decision makers here but pile on while we hope the Jets leftovers will bring us a division crown

All you have to do is read up on what was said last summer by both Rhule who brought in Joe Brady specifically for his familiarity with the Saints offense and what Joe Brady himself said about Teddy to see through this mirage that Marty Hurney simply went rogue. I mean it's laughable. https://247sports.com/Article/Carolina-Panthers-2020-NFL-season-Matt-Rhule-Joe-Brady-LSU-Teddy-Bridgewater-148955264/ https://www.panthers.com/news/teddy-bridgewater-joe-brady-carolina-offseason-program https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/news/joe-bradys-immense-confidence-relationship-with-teddy-bridgewater

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/panthers-matt-rhule-excited-to-move-forward-with-teddy-bridgewater-hes-exactly-what-we-want/ "According to Rhule, Bridgewater is not a placeholder or a bridge for someone like Will Grier or another future draft pick -- he's exactly what they were looking for."