frankw

You get lost on your way to the Jets board? Sounds like you are taking mimicking your favorite football team to the extreme.

You have to give the Fins credit. In the past they have been quite the dumpster fire but they are making big moves and have serious assets. The Panthers can't even out tank the Falcons or WFT.

Or we could just move on from both duds and start PJ Walker if we are actually rebuilding. But the amount of cap space we have incinerated in just one and a half offseasons for a team that has 2 wins within the division since 2019 kind of says otherwise. We have a front office that can't decide what they want to do. Is it any wonder we are saddled with a backup quarterback being paid 20 million a year?

And away we go. In other news...RIP Jessica Walter.

Weird flex after your awkward attempt at equating the desire to acquire a better quarterback with automatically defending sexual assault but okie dokie.

Viewing boycott? No won't change anything but I can relate to the rationale this isn't exactly an easy franchise to follow. I do rather envy the swagger of the Dolphins front office though. While you gloat about your team getting the shaft draft position wise they are making moves and weren't foolish enough to throw a bag at Teddy Bridgewater in the process.

Hard to blame them but it's an individual choice. Just because you choose to hitch your wagon to the definition of mediocre because you don't want to admit you were wrong doesn't make you the arbiter of Carolina Panthers fanhood.

The Panthers squandered an opportunity for a top 3 pick the last two years in what ended up being losing seasons so this is what you get. Sitting around plotting on next years top pick is for fools. You cannot play it safe on your way to a SB win anymore. If you are risk averse you will be a couch surfing team come January and February more often than not so accept this and evolve or try a new sport.

Grier failed to secure the backup spot from a former xfl player on a team with Teddy Bridgewater as the starter. Let it go.

Very apt username for this take.

How is this still going? His judgement is awful no matter how you choose to look at this and you cannot make someone like that the face of your franchise in 2021 and certainly not for that kind of investment.

All in on Fields Wilson or Lance bite the bullet and make the move for one and go heavy on the line and bring in another halfback.

To your first point that is valid. Yet the truth is we are now in that position with Teddy anyway while being on the hook for a much bigger cap loss. That is quite a significant negative now matter how we try to spin it. On your second point, metrics mean pretty much squat if the quarterback can't finish when it counts. Even Baby Goat was somehow capable enough to finish off a few games in the fourth quarter. Geez even Newton who is clearly a shell of himself managed to hobble together a few fourth quarter finishes. How on Earth did we downgrade from that? We won the same number of divisional matchups with Bridgwater as we did the previously mentioned quarterbacks. One. Uno. That is embarrassing at best. I have been around the block long enough to understand why some are still dying on this hill with Bridgwater. It's a shame but some things just don't change.

Baseless accusations of butthurt sounds like an emotional reaction to a simple perfomance based discussion. It is salary cap space that could have been utilized beefing up the offensive line and adding another starting corner at the least. The argument you are presenting does not jive with reality. If the Carolina Panthers were willing to spend the kind of money they did on a quarterback do you believe they did not have the expectation he would be even a slight improvement over Allen or a deteriorating Newton? If all they were seeking was a placeholder for a year or two they could have achieved that for significantly less investment and addressed other areas of need to be ready for the next quarterback when the time came to hand off the reigns. The present day dilemma is that simple.

That anyone would want to applaud being worse than Kyle Allen for big bucks sounds very on brand for a franchise still without consecutive winning seasons.

Personal attacks are unnecessary and embarrassing for the fans. Reality however is just that. 33 million dollars in guarantees says he will ultimately be okay despite it all. That much money for backup level play is quite the break in itself. He does not need folks here throwing themselves into flames on his behalf.

Truth hurts but this is all that needs to be said. No quarterback gets a pass for losing. The previous starter didn't for his losing record heading out the door and he was a top overall draft selection. I can say for sure I am over this awkward attempt at trying to copy the New Orleans Saints. Take out the trash and be the Carolina Panthers again. Anyone who enjoys losing records can follow the quarterback to his next destination.

Luke is a very nice guy but he is also someone who would tell it like it is. You have to acknowledge reality and move forward accordingly as an adult. All that being said. I do not believe for a minute that it was all Marty Hurney making the decision to open up the bank vault for a Bridgewater signing. He is not Snidely Whiplash and he was already on his way out of town anyway. Those who ultimately made the decision remain. I fear a major contributing factor in the signing was the need to save face after the disastrous PR effects of moving on from #1 the way we did. I can only hope they have learned a great deal from that experience because if not we already know what is on the horizon.

Well that's what we did last year and then we doubled down and restructured the contract of the highest paid running back in the league. Where exactly is the benefit to the team in this? It's great guys can show up in their #22 jerseys but when does the winning start? Have you seen our divisional record lately?

Odd we didn't try to work something out. I hadn't heard this until now but we briefly tried to sign Chris Carson. Hopefully we are not yet again getting off to another typical Panthers season where we just treat the backup rb role as inconsequential until it's too late. The state of our line is still anything but established or consistent. Work in progress is the most positive description you could give.

If "O.J. did it" is your biggest takeaway from all that you may be missing the forest for the trees. The ESPN 30 for 30 that covers both his trial and the social climate surrounding injustice at that time in our nation should be required viewing in heightened times like these.

I have done neither of those things. Reality set in rather rapidly once this situation reached multiple allegations. Watson is extremely unlikely to ever suit up for the Carolina Panthers and that is plainly clear. The majority of individuals making remarks here seem to understand and acknowledge this along with the obvious fact Watson has at the very least been using incredibly poor judgement as a face of a major sports franchise. There are still some fans holding out hope for different reasons but I cannot speak for them. In that regard however I will relent that sports often takes on too much importance in the grand scheme of things especially within the context of societal flaws. America must look within rather than continuing to idolize celebrity and trying so hard to place these public figures on a pedestal.

What kind of argument is that to tie those two together? Only a few ignoramuses dislike Bridgewater enough to blindly throw support behind Watson before all the facts have come out. The blanket implication you are making about any Panthers fan who simply wants better quarterback play in 2021 is irresponsible and insulting to all involved.

Dodging this circus should help put things in better perspective moving forward as far as risk/reward and resource allocation. Do what it takes to be the team to draft Fields and be done with it.

There are people who wouldn't actually take Wilson at all? I know we had the little rivalry going for a time and at one point the thought of him in a Panthers uniform would have been inconceivable but then along came 2020 and the sight of Teddy Bridgewater throwing a football.