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I would be thrilled with Pitts. He would instantly improve our redzone woes.

Option 2 is the only likelihood. There is no way the staff and the front office want that awkwardness looming over the '21 season and if they have to cut their losses that is what will happen. It would seem the only fans who want him to stay are the same ones who were so heavily vested in him being the heir apparent to the former quarterback they detested for a decade. The Panthers swung for the fences and they missed spectacularly. Get over it.

This thread is a good example of people seeking to argue for the sake of arguing and unwilling to relent and admit they were even a little bit wrong. Sometimes we have a misinformed take just let it go and learn it's football not rocket science. There have been dozens upon dozens of discussions over the years agonizing over which third or fourth string receiver on our roster will finally have that moment and take another step. How many times did it actually happen? Now we finally have a talented wide receiver who looks like a #1 with subpar signal callers throwing to him and the most relevant topic you can talk about is how overrated he is? Where he is statistically compared to his peers in the league is irrelevant until we have a capable quarterback who can throw him the ball. Be thankful we have such a talent even worth discussing and stop focusing so hard on tearing him down because it's April and you're bored.

It really cannot be understated how harshly the front office has handled this since the obvious became crystal clear. I just do not see a scenario where Teddy is here once the season begins. That bridge has been incinerated and sunken deep to the depths of the abyss. There is no going back. The only question now is how will our depth chart look come September? I still think the Panthers take a quarterback at some point in the draft. I like Will Grier as a person and do not blame him for the team drafting him where they did but that pick just isn't going to pan out unless he wakes up one morning suddenly transformed into Pat Mahomes like the movie Big with Tom Hanks.

The Panthers have been poorly run for a number of years but as for being one of the worst franchises historically I don't think you can make that claim yet. The franchise is still quite young and has been in two Super Bowls in the first two decades of existence. As an expansion team we also quickly found our way into the postseason, something that other teams in our division took many years to accomplish like the Saints for example. There have also been a few franchises in recent years like the Browns and Bills that have had very lengthy playoff droughts only recently ended. So I certainly understand the frustration with current times in Panthers land but historically we have not had it nearly as bad as some other teams over the years.

Wide receiver is one of the more coveted positions in the NFL now. As are dominant defensive linemen. We have a few of those approaching new contracts soon. If that is what you are worried about you should be asking why we invested 100 million dollars in two lesser valued positions in the midst of a rebuild.

Only Panthers fans will fawn over the highest paid running back in the league then turn around and bash their young talented wide receiver on a rookie contract.

In some ways there has been a bit of overrating DJ through fan lenses. But in that same regard there are people who try to diminish him for whatever reason despite clearly being a much needed breath of fresh air. To that I say we could end up back in the days of multiple third or fourth options in starting roles like Corey Brown or Devin Funchess or Kaelin Clay if we end up in cap hell again. 2017 anyone? Be grateful we at least have a talented wideout putting up respectable numbers for a change. We also have a solid 2nd option with Robby. How long has it been since we could say that?

I'm all for optimism but it's not exactly very encouraging if you have to go back to the disco era or even further to find examples to validate the narrative.

You talk like he personally took money out of your wallet. The Panthers are on their third GM since that went down and those people are gone. Let it go and move on all this spite about long settled grievances from years ago is very unhealthy guy.

Whew buddy what a tumble for Panthers fans. From a young Cam Newton in his prime to a quick five years later going to bat for the definition of mediocre in Teddy Bridgewater because it's the best you've got going and to praying Sam Darnold can pull a 180 in a single offseason. You guys miss those Cam threads yet? Life comes at ya fast.

What's your angle? The Panthers weren't winning with Teddy and they have limited options that don't involve surrendering a king's ransom to trade up for a rookie. If next year is more of the same it's back to the drawing board. This could be a short process or we could end up in qb purgatory so if you are fully hitching your wagon to anyone like Teddy or Sam before games have been played you will not enjoy life much so just sit back and let it play out.

This is a sad fact we should not shy away from because it continues to haunt this franchise. However it's a strange flex to essentially summarize his accomplishments with that. Do you see anyone saying hey that Luke Kuechly was a hell of a player but he never led his defense to back to back winning seasons? I just don't see what bitterness toward any of those players or even coach Rivera with all the rage posts about him in the past accomplishes now. We had a great run with that group but it is time to put it in the rear view and let go of old feelings and just be thankful for the success we experienced.

There should be lessons to be learned from how rapidly opinions formed in that thread were engulfed in flames. Historical odds dictate this could be a throwing poo at the wall effort for some time despite optimism for whomever the next reclamation project may be. Move forward with a certain threshold of detachment and retain some credibility and more importantly your sanity.

Another top 10 pick would obviously be helpful but time is not on our side. We had our chances in 19 and 20 to maximize our draft positioning and all we got was a pointless win streak for morale and now we are convincing ourselves a former bust will be our savior. We need to bridge the gap within the division while we still can with Brees exiting and Matt Ryan also possibly following him soon. The Bucs are obviously the lead dog but Brady isn't going to play forever. These next few years are crucial.

It really irks me that they even have a higher draft pick than the Panthers after embarrassing us the last couple of years. We must right this wrong.

They put the stamp on Teddy too tho.

Teddy is not a starting quarterback but the way our trio of head coach gm and owner have handled the public relations aspect with our last two quarterbacks leaves a lot to be desired in my eyes. You can certainly see they are learning on the fly with this.

In retrospect Carolina should have done it the right way two years ago and let things occur naturally when we started 0-2 with #1. We had a shot at his successor then and last year but we were concerned with team culture yet we proceeded to overpay at two luxury positions in what were ultimately very 2010 Richardsonesque moves despite what homers will tell you. We are where we are now because the Panthers just couldn't get out of their own way the same as past years. New owner same song and dance. We could get lucky and strike gold again like we did in 2011 but many fans lack the willingness to be that bold. That mentality is why someone like Bridgewater could even talked up as a franchise quarterback in the first place. It was always a tall order but he wasn't Cam Newton so for some that was enough. Now look at us. We tried to tell you.

There is no conclusion to make yet. Anyone writing him off already may as well just step away from the table because you will only spend the next several months wallowing in misery and for what? We know the Panthers MO by now. No sense even getting worked up over this. We basically drafted a new quarterback who already has NFL experience. Darnold is as much boom or bust as trading up for a rookie but with significantly less investment overall.

What optimism? The Panthers have 2 division wins since 2019 with Cam Newton Kyle Allen and Teddy Bridgewater. Most people seem to understand we are not a good football team. It's been a rough time for Charlotte sports but they can at least give us a team with some fight. We were not going to get that with a two yards and a cloud of dust passer like Bridgewater and if Darnold isn't it then it is on to the next.

https://www.panthers.com/video/throwback-sam-darnold-hits-robby-anderson-for-92-yard-td-in-2019 No clue how this will work out but at least the guy can sling it and Robby knows him as good as anyone.

Haha I don't know how some of you even survived 2010.

Goodness. Take it easy.

Trading for the Jets sloppy seconds wasn't a clear enough indicator?