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To win a championship in this current league you have to either get extremely lucky by catching lightning in a bottle like the Panthers did in 2015 or you have to build some semblance of consistency. I do not care for Sean Payton at all but I am not expecting a crash and burn unless he just forgets how to coach. What he brings to the table is what we need from Matt Rhule. Here's to hoping.

Division champs four years in a row with a Super Bowl trophy nestled under their tree every fall? Yeah that must be awful.

Oof. But if you don't lay out the red carpet for every decision mgmt makes some folks will go off the deep end and ask why you are a fan

So what is the total cost of this practice facility? 225 million is steep. Just what kind of other events can be held there to justify the soaring cost? It is not a big shock that another round of billionaire welfare isn't working out so well.

The Carolina Panthers have two divisional victories in the last two seasons and one of them was against Jameis Winston. Does anyone really expect our guys to be listed above players contending in the playoffs? McCaffrey has to stay healthy and help get this team out of the cellar.

That's a big if. And he will be 29 by the end of the season. https://sportsinjurypredictor.com/player/denzel-perryman/7260

He had an insane amount of snaps that year we based our whole offense around him. He had 1039 snaps and 403 physical touches and we won a whopping 5 games. There is this wild concept in football called versatility that coaches of winning teams tend to emphasize. I imagine Matt Rhule has this in mind. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/car/2019-snap-counts.htm

These rankings are based almost entirely on winning and losing. That's what people remember is if you win not how many yards you put up. How is this a foreign concept after ten years of Cam Newton? Do better in the division and finish games and they will be listed higher.

Well that's the average fanbase that isn't a perennial championship contender. It's why shameless bandwagoning is so common in sports.

This can be said to anyone who uses the internet regularly since all of us are guilty of being addicted to this technology. So basically the entire world you me and him included. The banter here is fairly tame by comparison with the rest of social media minus discourse on politics.

With all the time you spend here trying to talk over others whose takes you don't like it is hypocritical to start name calling. When have I said I do not support Sam? You have a problem with not being able to handle constructive criticism. That's on you.

Just saw a rumor about Gordon being traded. Terry has at least proven himself clutch. For all the Graham hype he has a knack for tossing up some ill timed bricks. I like him and Malik a lot but we can't keep both and we need trade capital because I am done with the shitshow that has been the center position for years now.

I struggle to wrap my mind around this. Like you suffer through years of the Jets just to finally jump ship and follow....Sam Darnold? Damn.

Well technically the Hornets did get the first pick but it was in a different city and the team was owned by the league at the time. Nothing shady there at all.

My thoughts about a behind closed doors draft lottery aside we are more than due. Charlotte should have had a top overall selection by now so the least the league can do is throw us another top 5 pick.

Few here are actually going to agree on Sam Darnold. The information is there for any fans to form their own conclusions. Much of the conversation the past month has revolved around which narratives will make Darnold's past appear less bleak. He has the opportunity to prove any doubters wrong. I hope he does.

The Dolphins were a bad football team and Tannehill had struggles that contributed. Who is saying otherwise? But he wasn't trash and he had some much needed intangibles already there and in the right situation he has done quite well for himself. You can't seem to decide whether you want him to look good or bad based on whichever argument you are making on behalf of Sam Darnold. In that case don't look at who is sitting at the bottom of the list in that link I sent in the previous post

My apologies yes some will call it passer rating. QBR is the metric that supposedly encompasses all the variables but it is again anything but settled information and has only been around the last ten years. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/qb-rating-nfl

QB rating and QBR aren't the same. This is actually something Panthers fans have a history with as it has been a contentious source of information back to the Cam days. We can argue over whether Tannehill was average or below average but I would not say he was terrible in the couple of seasons before he came to Tennessee. He peaked with the right staff and the right surrounding talent. I understand the desire to make him look worse to fit the narrative but I just cannot agree that he made a jump from abysmal to one of the best because he had some of the basics there already. He only played on 11 games in his final season with Miami btw.

The comps with Ryan Tannehill do have merit in a circumstance sense but he was a competent starter before he thrived in Tennessee though. It wasn't his decision making that was in question. His qb rating the last 6 seasons has never dipped below 88 and has been as high as 117. He took the leap from average to borderline elite with the help of a quality roster and the biggest running back in the league. The difference is they have a line to protect him while Carolina has a void at Sam's blindside until proven otherwise. Teams like Tampa will be chomping at the bit to put that to the test.

I was referring to his onfield performance. He can dazzle one play and baffle the next. We obviously know he is a bust as a top overall draft selection. I don't think anyone here is under any illusions that Jameis is likely to suddenly turn his career around. However his decision making struggles going back to college are not as far off from our own starter as some think. We hope Sam can turn the corner but like Winston the odds are stacked against him. His youth is the biggest plus in our favor rn.

If the Panthers had a fully intact offensive line in place I could understand not placing a priority on 2nd string quarterback. But with left tackle once again up in the air and all the offensive weapons we have now it just seems like throwing in the towel. An additional layer to all that is the 17 game season and unknowns about covid in the fall. That's a lot of variables that could spell unfavorable circumstances for many teams.

Jameis Winston as an nfl quarterback is the definition of boom or bust but the guy can throw. Folks mean well but they're on that hopium and don't want to see. The same staff out here building them up also told them Teddy was the answer. The league did us a solid with the opener this year so we won't have to wait long at least.

Are you referring specifically to Panthers local reporters or league wide? There are some really good sports journalists out there but they don't cover this team anymore sadly. As to your remarks about the questions they are asking I will agree that some are just looking to stir the pot or create clicks. Again that is a general issue with media now but in truth who do we have to blame? Social media very clearly thrives on negative information and in kind that is what media outlets produce. That is what keeps people coming back. But in regards to asking questions that would be perceived as tough or controversial that depends on the viewer. Some fans want fluff and all sunshine and rainbows while others take better to a more balanced experience with their team. If someone is the former their best bet is to stick to the teams official social media pages.