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What about it is inaccurate? If he is healthy we can get by for the moment but it isn't a guarantee at all. Carolina didn't think Ryan Kalil would be done as quickly as he was but at 33 that was it. Gross was done at 33 as well. That's how it goes in sports.

I don't see him as an issue or a weak link in the grand scheme. Looking at pff which is obviously loved or despised here based on which way the wind blows says he is not the same player he was in Denver. For where we are now that's okay he is serviceable for our needs. But it is a 17 game season so it is simply being realistic to point out he has missed time in the past. Carolina does not have an established left tackle penciled in as the starter currently and we traded for a young quarterback seeking to shake draft bust status after being rattled in ny. Yes left tackle is going to be a focal point right now for quite a few folks until we get some answers from camp and we hear more news about TM. If you struggle to reconcile with that maybe unplug.

BC has the size and potential but they don't even know if he will be a guard or a tackle yet. Paradis is an aging temporary solution who has had struggles staying healthy. Then we brought in Erving who has the same concerns. Moton is the most dependable out of that group. Despite what some are saying the tag is not a real solution. Best case scenario is he moves to the left spot and they pay him accordingly. No one is fixated on you it is the other way around. If you don't want to hear things that could burst your bubble avoid the quote button then. People are going to have opinions about the offensive line and it is not going to be sunshine and rainbows until the team invests better.

I get the logic you are trying to go with but it doesn't compute. We have invested three 1sts and two 2nds in the secondary and defensive line recently. The defense better look improved for that level of cost. Do you remember the last time Carolina drafted an offensive lineman in the first? Jeff Otah in 2008.

The age of the bup bup bup. That should be an experience that will give wiser minds a little better perspective not to just start drinking the koolaid and never let up. Proceed with caution is the best route as a seasoned Carolina Panthers fan.

We can skip the back and forth theatrics this go around. Let me ask you straight up. Are you concerned about left tackle? There is nothing wrong with being apprehensive at the sight of Carolina repeating the same approach that has given us one good season of left tackle play (2015) in a decade.

Carolina was a pushover on their last two big money contracts. Now they want to play hardball with their best offensive tackle when they have a patchwork offensive line already? Not a great look.

If he keeps improving he stands to make 90 million dollars or more on his next contract. Panthers better pay that man.

There is plenty of stupidity online. This is all tame and harmless. Even the slapfights. One day you'll work up the courage to form a real opinion. I have faith in you big guy!

How does one accumulate nearly 110k posts without offering any semblance of their own personal opinion on anything?

Obvious answer is Darnold but one area that held the team back last year was getting off the field on third downs. I want to see how the secondary is shaping up.

If you are only going to call me out you aren't being consistent so we don't need to derail this any further. Good talk.

He will be 29 next month and he is on his third team in two years. His ability to stay on the field has plagued his career as much as his struggles playing tackle. It is a risk vs reward move but for Carolina more of the same so you can't blame fans or the media for panning the signing. Overall the up in the air status of the position is simply discouraging.

There was no rudeness no namecalling so what is your issue? In another thread he called those with opinions opposing his hoes yet I did not see you there giving him a stern talking to over that. He has anyone who challenges his viewpoint on ignore anyway so I suppose it doesn't matter.

If players took your approach they would go around patting themselves on the back all day long and never improve. Take off the shades from time to time.

Yes due to the pieces around him now. But we need vocal leadership on the defense to bring this young roster together.

That depends on the goal. Just a winning season or a return to playoff relevancy? If the latter he will need to elevate his game because top tier offenses with elite qb's will target him. They study film too.

Bottom ranked lber bottom ranked oline bottom in the standings. Boy does this franchise ever need some uplifting. Gone are the days of being the class of the nfc South. Before I delve into the now I want to take a moment to reflect on a key factor that facilitated that rapid decline from the 2015 super bowl team. That would directly be investing two first rounders in '15 and '16 in two positions of strength on players who faced an uphill battle living up to their draft position. This franchise must build wiser for the future. For the now we do not need Shaq to be an all pro. We need him to step into his role as a leader and be part of the glue that holds the defense together. Next year is next year but this defense has the makings of something special. But no one on this roster needs sweet nothings whispered in their ears. The Panthers aren't anywhere near where they need to be if playoff runs are the goal. The only way to return to form is the be honest about shortcomings and keep improving. Right now they need face an uphill battle but there is room for growth. Let us hope they will deliver.

The loudest pro Shaq Thompson guy here was also the loudest outspoken Teddy Bridgewater defender and for months railed against anyone who questioned his struggles so

Overpaid is too vague of a term. I don't see how Erving is a logical choice regardless though. It depends on what it would cost to move on if need be. If the dead cap is very steep but you can survive without them on the field there is your answer. People here mean well but they can't see past the personal attachment they have formed. Lessons have clearly not been learned since we moved on from the last Panthers franchise quarterback.

Of course things look peachy in July the future for this roster as of now has yet to be written. It's less about the total cap number and more about fully utilizing advantageous contracts from young talent on your roster while you have an open window. The cap itself can be maneuvered around see the Saints whom Carolina fans are always predicting their imminent demise because they keep kicking the can down the road yet they keep on going like the energizer bunny. 2023 is the big year for Carolina. Brian Burns will be seeking a new deal as will DJ Moore and both players will be in prime years in their mid twenties. That's a lot of dough. The offensive line concerns aren't going anywhere soon either as center will be a big need as Matt Paradis will be 34 and reaching the end of his career. Taylor Moton's services will be retained the only question is left or right. But if he's an lt he won't be had for less than 65 million looking at the contracts for other left tackles.

You honestly think he was in Tepper's long term plans once he made all that effort to fly out to hire Matt Rhule? 60 million dollars just to keep having Hurney running drafts and free agency? I'm not buying the fully hands off owner bit but if you don't agree that's fine.

The McCaffrey extension was about selling tickets and keeping fans from jumping ship after a very ugly split from Newton. I tend to think Hurney was gm in name only once Rhule was brought in. He did what he was told. It was Tepper and Rhule in the drivers seat. How we later dragged Teddy in public only further cements this.

The likelihood of an "elite" answer this year would have been low. KC got Orlando Brown but they gave up a haul. The hope was one of the top tackles falling to us at 8 in the draft but that was a longshot. There were a few older lower contract free agent left tackles we probably would have been able to lure over here for a little more than what they got. But even with a temporary viable solution and significant cap space that's still a better position to be in than facing the combined cap hits next year of 22 and 54 with our backs against the wall trying to figure out the upcoming contracts for guys like Burns and Moore and hinging the season on Erving while seeing who blinks first between us and Taylor Moton. If you were an nfl gm looking to right the ship of a struggling franchise with some nice young defensive pieces solid receivers and a young qb but ten years of throwing crap at the wall for the o line what would you put first. Offensive line or running back and linebacker?

If the best route to attack me that you've got going is me misremembering a fact from 40 or 50 years ago do you my guy. Dan Marino and Barry Sanders have nothing to do with lack of success for the Carolina Panthers. I've never said any of those players you mentioned are terrible. Burns DJ and Chinn are part of our core we should be building around while they are young and on affordable contracts. Moton is too but now his future is up in the air with his payday now due. Having the highest paid running back is bizarrely a badge of honor of sorts around these parts for some. Almost anyone with a pulse agrees McCaffrey is a gifted athlete. But not everyone is going to agree with sinking the salary cap on him while the offensive line is still very much in flux. Btw that second quote was about Cam Newton not McCaffrey. If you are going to call someone out at least get the info right.