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On the contrary. I expected a likely losing season again. I was sold that the trade was worth it because we would have a talented franchise QB to build around who in the meantime would be able to compensate to some degree for the lack of pieces around him because he was a "point guard" who could distribute the ball and make those around him better. What I've gotten instead is our rookie QB is the lowest rated in the league by PFF. It is not all on Bryce. But he's the signal caller and he's going to take a lot of the heat. Plenty of that heat should be going to Reich and Fitterer and moreso the Tepper's because I know they had a hand in steering the pick they might not have explicitly said draft him but when your boss clearly is in love with the prospect and he's constantly lurking around like Dracula what are you going to do? Back to Mingo. I'm expecting better from him but I'm sorry if I'm not angry about how he isn't A.J. Brown out of the gate but I wasn't sold on that with the pick. We knew he would be a work in progress and show some flashes in the meantime.

The Carolina Panthers built this story around Bryce Young and his "elite" QB intelligence. They told us they determined him to be the most pro ready QB in the draft by a significant margin. Instead of directing your scorn toward other fans for rightly describing this as a shitshow on arrival maybe start asking more questions of the decision makers.

The NFL has and will always be a what have you done for me lately league. If your issue is fans being impatient after giving up a haul of picks and a premium player maybe you should go join a golf discussion board.

He is a backup for a reason and the same people trying to sell me that he's this or that are the same ones who tried to sell us Darnold and Teddy.

We didn't give up a premium player and multiple firsts for Mingo while hyping him up as the most pro ready and cerebral player in the draft. I regularly observed folks here comparing Young to legends and hall of famers in multiple sports. The folks who created this illusion now want to yell foul about the reaction to the results and it's cringe.

Reich is ass so far. I'm also looking at our wide receivers coach. In all this staff is majorly underwhelming. I was concerned about all the fluff the Panthers PR was putting out about this group a few months back. Now it's becoming more clear.

I like how we're going for 2nd round pick Mingo's neck for having rookie struggles that were simultaneously making excuses for with our rookie QB we gave up a haul to select.

Gotta hone in on this a little bit more because it needs way more attention than a quick little blurb. This aspect was pumped up big time by our supposed biggest decision makers and so far it's looking poor at best. Bryce Young is going to get someone fired (deservedly so) if he can't turn things around. Luckily there's 15 more games. But unfortunately there's also two ways those games can go. I'm hoping for not more of the same. We'll see.

Well some of ya'll have been hating on CJ Stroud for months and now you've hit bottom and you're still swinging. I'd say maybe change the approach.

Are you okay?

The fact that anyone voted for Fitt with his zero winning seasons is hysterical.

My guy I've seen countless either mediocre or flat out awful QB's with my own eyes playing for this team. The offensive issues are not on one player and so far our head coach looks clueless but Bryce Young needs to play much better football too. I'm sorry you're too delicate to discuss that but we acknowledge reality here.

When you're the fan of sports franchise with 7 winning seasons in 27 years and zero winning seasons in the last 6 years you call a turd a turd when you see it. You can also hope it's possible to turn things around without giving new coaches who have already been fired once free passes because someone tells you that's what a real fan would do.

You guys remind me of Sam Darnold stans. That's not a good thing.

Anti intellectual would be propping up one set of data that fits the narrative while ignoring clear data that shows he's the lowest ranked quarterback in the league and has the 3rd lowest YPA of any QB ever in their first two starts. Nothing is set in stone but it's going horrifically so far. That's the rub.

State of things right now:

Wrong thread

It's wild we've only made it through 8 quarters of football and the pre-draft concerns so many folks wanted to dismiss are front and center as the elephant in the room. Just because folks have years of football knowledge doesn't mean they'll get the call right. There's plenty of time left but it's starting out about as worse as it possibly could.

After only 2 games? Say it isn't so.

Oh for sure in Europe and even South America they'll kill ya over Soccer. There was a referee I read about some years back who players returned after the game because of a call they didn't like and beheaded him. Left his severed head on a pike. Insanity.

Drunken fisticuffs over sports is about as dumb as it gets in this country.

If you're this angry defending an 0-2 Panthers team with a bottom 3 offense maybe it's time to unplug for awhile my guy.

I've gotten hundreds of poo emojis from Bryce Young stans since back before the draft. Look at the sad state of affairs now. As the saying goes ya reap what ya sow.

Hey @AceBoogie too bad sitting around pooing posts at 8 in the morning will make this Panthers offense look any better eh