frankw

Allen peaked within just 4 games because teams didn't have tape on him initially. Once that changed he cratered CMC or not. Same story with Sam Darnold in 2021. Bryce has faced tough circumstances but he's displaying an undeniable tendency to avoid throwing deep and defenses have picked up on that in recent weeks. Kyle Allen was trash and so were his fanboys. But. Even that and the Teddy Bridgewater season was better football than this and that's not something I like admitting. Who is hoping for him to get hurt? Brother you're grasping in every direction right now. There's still a possibility of a light at the end of the tunnel though. It isn't all on Bryce Young. But if he is to have a career as a franchise QB he's got to address several things. Footwork. Snaps from center. Actually showing the defense you can beat them deep consistently. These things have to happen or it doesn't matter. We can argue as much as we want about it. If he and we cannot achieve those things then this is not meant to be.

You've already admitted you fully checked out once Cam was released. I'm the one that's too attached? Come on man. Here's the simple truth. Kyle Allen showed more in those brief few games than Bryce Young has in even one. Now I don't like it. It makes me miserable to see my Panthers looking like this. But that's the truth I'm going to acknowledge.

He's the QB and we gave up a haul to draft him. He isn't some undrafted kid we took a flier on. You are too attached my guy.

He isn't Clausen but I wish I could say there were not a few parallels between the two and their passing offenses. It's bad brother there's no sugar coating it. Gotta just call it like it is and at the same time hoping he can regroup and bounce back next season hopefully reinvigorated and with some added bulk which is needed.

The return value was poor I agree but McCaffrey would not be seeing that level of production here with this oline and he would probably be banged up as well. Not to mention we haven't seen a coach with even half the creativity of Shanahan in many years. The more egregious trade was DJ Moore. Top 10 wide receiver and one of our desperate top needs is...

Brock Purdy is ass cheeks.

Dak will blow it eventually against tougher competition. Give it time.

Whew this is definitely a Ron Rivera team. Folk who clamored for Wilks take a good look.

People really in here talking about rooting for the Niners lol. Have some dignity ffs.

Beyond the oline issues here we just do not push downfield. We could have an elite WR and it wouldn't matter because we would just be throwing screens. The YPA doesn't lie.

What we've seen is IMO a tier below Teddy Bridgewater. I hope BY turns it around because the alternative is a bleak mess.

I'm not arguing every single sack is the fault of the oline but that's a high number of sacks. Only the Giants have more. But if we find ourselves looking to blame other QB's for their sacks while shielding Young for the ineptitude of this offense despite the circumstances it looks inconsistent at best.

So Sam Howell isn't working with super dependable elite WR's after all? And he's been sacked about 50 times?

Ah yes filling up the IR so there is an excuse to fall back on. The faces and names in the front office change but it's more of the same. I cannot see how anyone can still defend Fitterer at this point.

It was discussed at length here at the time. But anyone that expressed concern about it was shouted down and attacked.

You don't remember what created the cheesy moniker of Riverboat Ron? Yes punting and settling for field goals made him unpopular in his early games here. Which seems like a crazy notion given what we have come to accept now. I concur there are multiple areas in need of refinement and issues to be solved. Unfortunately if you watch how defenses play us they have taken to sitting on the short routes waiting to be fed pick sixes. They know what's coming. That's deeper than coaching and lack of talent unfortunately. I agree about Tepper. He may never change. He is the definition of ego driven. I do not think he even necessarily cares about winning. He only wants to win if it's his way and he's heavily involved so he can brag.

Well that's the thing Carl you have to be able to at least move the ball at a decent pace if we want to win. Sitting at dead last in yards per attempt is not going to achieve that goal. We have lowered the bar to where we look at settling for field goals as a small victory whereas we used to eviscerate Ron Rivera's teams for it.

I know it eats at you that Bryce Young still hasn't led an offense to surpass that. Chin up Carl. It could happen. Here's to hoping

Still the most amount of points on the season whether we like it or not. That's pathetic any way you slice it.

Excellent team win last night. Even Gordon Hayward finally showed up. Fug the Celtics.

Just an observation but it concerns me how no defender remotely gives a poo that Tremble is running free across the middle. Now I'll be the first to say Tommy has had an up and down career with us thus far but he hasn't been developed either. I think he could be a pretty good TE with the right coaching. Back to the point though. The defenders all head toward the sideline with Mingo because they have been well coached and watch film. They knew where the ball was going because they know Bryce's tendencies. More often than not there is absolutely no threat of Bryce Young throwing downfield. We can blast Reich the OL Mingo or whomever. The tape doesn't lie.

He is terribad and a dinosaur no question. Even if we move on I would not expect a quick turnaround. As woeful as his scheme is the question is how much of it is to fit Bryce. The same scheme was not worst in the league with Dalton.

People keep making this their first line of defense. Yet our highest offensive output on the season with this same group was from Dalton.