frankw

You are hopelessly and hilariously dug into your position. Keep going. It's entertaining.

That's true but I would argue Beane is more of an outlier. As far as Morgan removing the emotional attachment revolving around his history as a Panthers player all we have to go on is his involvement here and Buffalo. If we are to go the glass half full approach we would say his time with the Bills says we should take a shot on him because he was involved at some level in some very solid roster building. On the flip side we said the same thing about Fitterer when we snagged him from Seattle. It's a crapshoot.

We may not agree much. But good to see you are still around.

Sounds eerily familiar like what we said about Fitterer after Rhule was fired. Clean house.

Are you @WOW!!? Everything makes sense now.

Yeah I never bought that either. In this business friendship doesn't mean much. Money talks.

If you're arguing in favor of Bryce after a regime change those are 3 names you don't want to mention. Darnold was always a bust. Jones has been outplayed by an undrafted FA. Fields would be the only one of the three and even he is called a bust here still by quite a few people. Even though I'm pessimistic I absolutely l hope BY can put in a heavy offseason working on his game and hopefully bulk up some too. If he were to somehow turn this into a redemption story that would be fantastic. But he has a lot to overcome. We shall see.

And also from a Scott Fitterer apologist pretty amusing.

You're talking about All-Pro wide receivers. Who wouldn't love to have one of those? But DJ Moore is a #1. It is what it is. You have to accept you were wrong.

We better at least make a run at him.

Sir Purr. Match the energy of the team.

If your expectations are another WR in the mold of Steve Smith you'll be waiting a long time. Most of these new young guys simply aren't built that way. Social media doesn't help either. I think your ego won't let you acknowledge you misjudged. Ohwell.

Some still are lol

I'm talking about before we traded for him. It is almost verbatim the same rhetoric about his time with the Jets. If it doesn't seem the same it's because you don't want to see it.

You could copy/paste this post from any comment about Sam Darnold three years ago. But go off.

We will hear about coaching the OL and the receivers but even the biggest Panthers homers should have a difficult time sugar coating all this. At best it's on par with Clausen. Quite depressing.

Bryce Young is the layer that complicates the hire when accounting for the fact there are multiple vacancies currently and some that have clear upgrades at QB. He will absolutely get next season but any head coaching candidate we hire is and will ask about all possibilities and contingency plans in the event things do not trend significantly upward for Bryce. The best candidate will not take the job if it's build around Bryce and nothing else. That is too much of a risk for any first time head coach. They read the same news we do about this team. Sometimes one chance is all you get. Tepper is going to have to accept his #1 pick just got a whole lot of people fired and we will need to assess possible options for 2025. In the meantime build the OL and get more weapons with what means we have.

I like Brian on a personal level I've defended him over the months here and Scott Fitterer was a bumbling buffoon. But it's best for him to move on. We need to pay our real leader on defense Derrick Brown whatever he wants and keep it pushing. Too many other needs.

Clearly someone is attempting damage control. It would be better to say nothing at all than leak nonsense excuses like this. You lost your cool just own it and move on.

Waking up to this news is like Christmas morning.

Part of this is also due to Bryce Young himself. When these defenses watch the tape they see our OL but they also see Bryce Young's yards per pass attempt. He finished the season with apparently the lowest yards per pass attempt in NFL history. That doesn't just happen only because of the oline and receivers. He simply does not instill any level of fear as a passer. That's the rub. Sad as it is to say.

Used to be the banner game was the one where we beat CJ Stroud and the Texans with Eddie's leg. Now it's a loss against one of the worst secondaries in the league that surrendered 4 (FOUR) passing touchdowns to Baker Mayfield who led his offense to 9 total points today against a Panthers defense that gave up 26 points to a Trevor Lawrenceless offense last week. You just can't talk sense to some of the people who want to believe despite quantifiable data.