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I have to imagine Evero has been in the loop through all of this. Ultimately this is probably good for him in the fact this will be a scenario where if he fields a decent defense through all this adversity he's pretty much all but guaranteed a head coaching job next year.
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Breaking: Panthers sign former Seahawks OG Damien Lewis
frankw replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
You BY apologists sound nervous. I don't think most people are mad that we are investing in the offense that has been mediocre to putrid the last several years. They are mad that due to mismanagement we are continually shipping off talent for very little. Bryce Young is going to be setup and given the resources to succeed that much is clear. Almost all Panthers fans hope he does. But if he does not. Another QB will be walking into a significantly better position. Competition is a good thing. Honestly BY needs some of that. There can be no excuses. He needs to step up and command the locker room. This is his team now. This is the season that will tell us all we need to know about the mettle of Bryce Young the QB and about that leadership ability that we heard so much about a year ago. -
Thanks Dan, Nicole, David….. y’all saved me $8100
frankw replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Aren't you the guy who came at my neck multiple times for speaking the truth about Bryce Young last year? You're welcome to go back and read the threads about the offer at the time yourself. Two of the 3 most sought after positions then and now remain QB's and pass rushers. The issue isn't just that we turned down the trade for picks that were years away. It's that our former GM went completely stupid and kept one upping himself with all in moves one after the other until he finally got the first overall pick and managed to take the wrong QB. Burns now no matter how one may feel about him is still worth at least one first round pick. No team would give us that because they've seen us give away other players for mediocre return and they know we are absolutely desperate to fix the QB we just drafted. You know. The one you defended tooth and nail.
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You're this desperate to help the man who carried water for Scott Fitterer more than anyone else? What a kind knight in shining armor. I was 50/50 on the offer but the picks were years away and I saw the value in Burns looking at the current picture of the team before we made the slew of future mortgaging panic moves that set us on this collision course thanks to Scott Fitterer. Burns trade value has bottomed now since that offer because of the trade for Bryce Young and everything that has followed. Everyone knows we're completely desperate. In hindsight sure you make the trade to the Rams. Few people at the time wanted to hear it though don't act like I was the only one.
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CMC Moore and Burns = Bryce Young, 2nd and 5th round picks.
frankw replied to Eazy-E's topic in Carolina Panthers
Tepper is in hiding he's made Nicole the face of Panthers PR. And you better not make any undignified remarks. -
In all seriousness since we have nothing else to talk about can we dunk on the Scott Fitterer apologists for a bit? Mr. Scot show yourself.
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BREAKING: Giants looking to trade for Brian Burns
frankw replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
If Bryce Young hasn't basically moved his whole life into the weight room by the morning...- 543 replies
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Return value discussion aside that is an absurd contact for Burns no matter how well he may play there. I think most of the ire centers around this combined with the 100 million dollar contract for an OG and having holes all across the roster. But. If we had begun doing this a few years ago it wouldn't sting this bad currently. Tepper and Fitterer kept making all in win now moves like they were playing Madden GM mode (hi Bryce Young) and this is the aftermath of what we get.
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BREAKING: Giants looking to trade for Brian Burns
frankw replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I mean there are people here who could have done a better job the last few years. Not trading for Sam Darnold was a pretty obvious one.- 543 replies
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BREAKING: Giants looking to trade for Brian Burns
frankw replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Oooooof. Well. It's going to be interesting to bump this thread next year. Some folks are either going to look like fools or pretty smart. Based on the Panthers history with moves like these I wouldn't bet money on the latter.- 543 replies
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Alright lol that's enough
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Sucks to see him go but I would not say he's irreplaceable. Certainly not if Brian Burns isn't. Now we're heading into my fear scenario though where we basically have to navigate a stellar draft. Hey it's sure a good thing we didn't retain the same scouting dept behind some of the worst drafts in franchise history the last few years. Oh...
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BREAKING: Giants looking to trade for Brian Burns
frankw replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
We have the worst win % in all of sports the last few years and it isn't because of the defense. You guys just be sure to keep the same energy. The Panthers haven't gotten a great return in a trade in a long time. I don't expect this to go much different.- 543 replies
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BREAKING: Giants looking to trade for Brian Burns
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I mean maybe not that exact word but people have talked like he's a jag that's not an exaggeration.- 543 replies
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With our history in the second round?- 543 replies
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High probably he goes off for the Giants. People who think he's trash better prepare themselves. Whatever we get back we better nail the pick. Therein lies the problem.- 543 replies
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If we actually get a first call Hurney and let him make the pick.- 543 replies
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For a first sure. Anything else fug off.- 543 replies
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I mean I wanted to address the OL. He's a damn good player. That's a lot of fuging money though... Now we need a center.
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Not worried about Cousins. I saw all I needed to know in that final pass he threw against the Cowboys in the playoffs. Also fug the Falcons.
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What would go in a package for Burns/Higgins swap?
frankw replied to RumHam's topic in Carolina Panthers
Tee Higgins is good but whether or not he will take that next step or a few steps remains to be seen. And isn't he due a new contract by next year? I'd honestly rather work the draft and take 2 receivers if needed. Trading for Higgins solves one need though our depth is still kinda meh because TMJ is done and Theilen while having reliable hands was one of the worst receivers in the league in YAC. Also trading Burns immediately opens the door for Dan Morgan putting himself in a situation of being desperate for pass rush help and I'm not exactly thrilled with the likely scenario of him reaching in the draft or overpaying a free agent. We also have the center position to resolve. This is a lot for a first time GM to take on. It's either going to go really well or really bad. We'll see. -
Deja Vu. The names change but once again it's the same old Panthers.