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Looking at the state of our secondary I don't see why not. At least make a run at him for a reasonable contract. Why we didn't just do this after we traded for him instead of giving Donte Jackson that extension is just one more to add to the Fitterer buffoonery pile.

Anywho. I like the insight from Canales. I can appreciate that he doesn't just give canned coach speak answers to everything. Certainly the footwork can be addressed but the issue is things like for example the baffling pogo hop that Bryce has apparently done for years isn't related to footwork it's so he can see the field. He's had time to do things like this in college because he played for Alabama. Canales certainly has his work cut out for him.

None of us can know that. You can cope with the pick without these mental gymnastics.

Well at least it will be entertaining.

Glad we are in agreement.

I'm just having a little fun with it. But really though. Within the span of a month. -Schefter namedrops Nicole Tepper -Nicole Tepper sits down for an impromptu local interview as Panthers owner -Schefter calls into the Pat MacAffe show with David Tepper beside him Clearly the Tepper's and Schefter communicate with one another and have been doing so for some time. And to think some labeled any suggestion of such communication as a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.

David Tepper and Adam Schefter just hanging out together eh? Well well well.

2nd round. Wide Receiver. Carolina Panthers. At this point just hit on the pick. IDGAF which one.

No reason to berate each other over Mike Williams. He doesn't move the needle that much anyways.

Maybe he's a meat head. He did score I believe a 93 on the same test Bryce Young was praised for aceing. I mean looking back if my only options are trading up for Bryce Young or staying put I'd have drafted Levis and kept DJ Moore. The Titans just shelled out 92 million bucks to pair Levis with a WR we could have given him for half the cost. You just have to laugh.

The best weapon in the NFL is elite QB talent. Offensive player of the year or Super Bowl champion? Which one you choosing?

We would have to overpay and even then he didn't want to stay here last time. Probably a pipe dream. If it does somehow happen people will complain about his run defense too just as they did before which is always forgotten in these convos.

Kick the tires on a low end contract when the team releases them which they will eventually sure. But Fitterer's time as GM centered around being "in on every deal" and being one or two moves away from where you need to be as if he were playing GM mode on Madden instead of any semblance of a long term plan. I'm sincerely hoping Morgan is much different in this regard and can actually draft at minimum solid players. We'll see.

Crikey!

Appreciate the information

Eh that's hardly settled. His parents were thrilled to have him on the west coast where they have nothing but familial roots. He himself seems more than content. I think it's pretty safe to say even if he didn't directly want to leave immediately he was not willing to continue risking his health and career longevity to wasted seasons here. You guys are going to have to accept that one day.

Well if you're looking for accurate statments. I'd say after one of the most disastrous rookie QB seasons ever seeing Bryce Young look pretty much physically the same after gutting the defense and shelling out well over 100 million dollars to beef up the offensive line it would more than qualify as an accurate statement to say that's not exactly encouraging. Looks like I might be getting an early start on that 2025 QB class after all.

Well boys might as well get started early looks like it's going to be another long season.

Yeah it's a tough situation could have made a case for keeping him given our need but also can easily make the case that he was an acquisition made out of necessity and he hasn't held up his end of the bargain now with two different teams despite where he was drafted. Nothing against the guy he didn't make the trade Fitterer did. Good luck to him. Hey let's just agree to stop sifting through the lost and found bin of teams like the Jaguars going forward considering we're the worst team in the league until proven otherwise.

I'd say we've already entered into the flag football era that ship has sailed. The league can't even get calls right or decide on what is or isn't a catch with high resolution camera angles all over the field. No sense getting upset about it now.

I'm sure other people here remember it these were the throwing drills all QB's participated in and it was at the stadium. Bryce's deep ball accuracy was a topic then and it certainly remains one now I'm just not sure why you are so concerned about me giving you irrefutable video evidence when we all know his deep ball has been an issue. You're falling back on one single throwing session that looks again like a photo op. It isn't controversial or hating to say we need a great deal more than that from our young first overall pick. If you and MasterAwesome want to take turns quoting me and carry water thats your prerogative but no amount of white knighting here is going to change the realities of what needs to happen for Bryce Young to become a franchise QB worthy of the top pick. He needs to go above and beyond. I want to see it. I hope to see it. I patiently await July and August. If he's doing these things I will be thrilled and compliment him. That's only the first step though. We still need to see the results on the field. And we need to see him step forward and take ownership of his team. Yes. His team. He's the guy. I would much rather happily see him succeed than fail and start over and have squandered all those resources and effort to acquire his services. That doesn't mean I'm going to spend the next several months operating with rose colored glasses. Nobody on this roster is getting a free pass after last season. We will see what happens.

Why would I make that up? I believe it was PNP that had a livestream reaction going and they posted it to YouTube that talked about that blurb in there on his deep ball inaccuracy and there was a thread here that discussed it as well. You're saying I'm lying saying I'm hating yada yada after you sought out the post to quote all this on initially. Kinda disappointing but hey it's cool. Appreciate the convo.

Andy Dalton is dogwater. Yes I expect my first overall pick to at minimum be a push in comparison. I do not believe that is an outlandish or unreasonable expectation. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

I like you man but is this really the best you've got to hang your hat on from a number one pick who just finished with one of the worst stastical rookie seasons ever? I see his participation there as the bare miminum. I was not referring to the bare minimum when I said extra time in the post you quoted. And yes I absolutely recall a decent amount of discussion around his fairly awful deep ball accuracy in those drills to the point us casual fans and even some of the independent guys covering the team were concerned but chalked it up to rust. Clearly that was not the case. If he can't get that deep ball figured out our season is DOA. So yes I would be thrilled to see and expect to see our first overall pick going above and beyond developing chemistry with all of his receivers this season.

Well it bares repeating that Andy Dalton who is a pretty awful QB at this stage in his career made it work with the important prerequisites you mentioned. Last seasons results weren't all Mingo and the rest of the receiving cores fault. Nor were said results all of Bryce Young's fault clearly. But you also can't negate the fact that when Bryce Young was on the field every defense we faced had seen the film. The film of said route running and the film of Bryce Young not utilizing the entire field. All of that made their jobs significantly easier. I do agree I have high hopes for our new WR from the Steelers. Though if what I've read from a Steelers fan here who seemed pretty straightforward about his assessment of Johnson is true then we should keep expectations relatively even until we've seen him with this group for a few games. Idk man looks more like a photo op to me. Let's remember Bryce Young looked to be the most rusty and inaccurate of the three QB's in the deep passing drills at BOA during camp. Even moreso than Matt Corral. How did that translate to the regular season? We'll just have to see what his approach is this season.