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I agree I wanted a full complete house cleaning minus Evero. Morgan could surprise us. I genuinely hope he does since he has the added perspective of being a former player that Scott Fitterer obviously lacked. But it's IMO a longshot that he is going to draft night and day better than Scott considering the scouts advising him are the same. If that improvement at drafting does not happen then Canales or whomever is doomed. At the end of the day due to reputation of the job and the bosses (Tepper's) we did not get any takers from the top candidates for the GM job or the head coaching vacancy. Most of us knew this even if we didn't want to admit it. We will just have to see if David Tepper finally got lucked into a few decent hires. Dumb luck is really all we can hope for at this point.

He's the smallest starting QB in the league. That just isn't a matter of debate. We can hope he goes on to have a career that transforms any narrative about smaller QB's for many years to come. I hope so. But as for you. It's clear you seek a community that is mostly free from dissenting opinions or opinions that drift from your POV that the team is generally without need of any critique. Well I'm here to tell ya bud that's simply not the case. No sports franchise manages to end up with the worst win percentage in all of professional sports the last few years without a culture of very poor management overall. If you want to continue to be a hall monitor of Panthers related conversation you should create your own community. Otherwise kindly just take a seat. Have yourself a lovely day sir.

You've been up all night bud. I took a few days off from this place while you were up at 1 am defending Bryce Young's honor. Step off and take a break for your own health. You need it.

I only recently read up on our new GM. Somehow I guess in the midst of all this I mostly missed the hire. Seems like a knowledgeable guy and certainly a change of pace from aging Mitch Kupchak in the youth area. I'm hoping he's up to the task of finding a real head coach that can finally change the trajectory of the culture of this team. Tall order though. Ending this playoff drought should be the first order of business. No more soft ass nonsense. If you're here and you can go you play.

Gotta keep that concert money coming in.

Put me in the camp that is not impressed with keeping a Rhule era hire to head the strength and conditioning dept. Sounds as good of an idea as retaining the entire scouting dept of the fired GM who was our worst in franchise history by a wide margin. But hey what do we know. Right?

I'd be happy with that for the first 2 picks. We need to be realistic about expectations for another rookie WR even if we do take one at 33 or 39 regardless. Center is a big need as far as I'm concerned though. This route would also tell me Morgan is at least just trying to draft really good football players instead of overthinking trying to acquire more picks with less value. We'll see how it shakes out.

If someone is offering us a first next year then yeah you heavily consider and likely take that. But that does seem like a bit of a too good to be true scenario. I'm just not keen to buy into trading down in general after seeing the aftermath of Fitterer's wheeling and dealing. Just about everyone loved that poo at the time. Now his former best friend is our GM. I'm more than okay with just taking whatever top talent is available at our respective picks if that's what we do.

Can't be passive in general publicly or behind closed doors or on the field. Whether it's Bryce or whoever we don't need another milquetoast. Kyle Allen Teddy Bridgewater Sam Darnold. If it's more of that for the next several years just move the damn team already. Our two best QB's in the span of 25 years while doing things differently and their own way because they were certainly different were both regarded as being vocal and inspired their teammates as such.

It still boils down to sustaining drives and every team we face will have 16 games of tape of Bryce Young throwing the ball. When the run doesn't work which eventually it will get shut down Bryce will have to be able to attack every part of the field with his arm or it's going to be a rerun of 2023.

Did you watch their last playoff game? They have lots of offensive talent. Tua struggled to get them the ball. He's apparently reworked his throwing motion as a last ditch attempt to appease the Dolphins. But they are going to make a move for another QB in the not so distant future no doubt.

Drew Brees and Tua don't belong in the same conversation. If Tua actually had Brees arm strength the Dolphins would have advanced further in the playoffs. Tua is the last QB we want to be relegated to comparing our top pick with. Discouraging to say the least.

That clown behind the test should be ridiculed into oblivion.

Many many people including our own front office really looked at CJ Stroud's arm talent and said...

If the gameplan to fix the offense with Bryce as QB is to pass the ball as little as necessary then yeah we're drafting QB next year without a doubt.

If anyone in the building still uses the term point guard in reference to the QB they should be removed immediately.

When Mac Jones has a significantly better deep ball than your top pick you traded DJ Moore and a first overall pick for...

I feel like if he goes somewhere else he's going to look like a threat again.

There are certainly things to like. If Canales is indeed the right hire at the right time that will go a long way in restoring the competitiveness at minimum. But. We also have to be able to draft worth a damn. That's the variable we're on pins and needles waiting to see how it plays out. Morgan needs to HIT in this draft or the coach doesn't matter. I'll be ready to pop the champagne in the fall after I've seen enough results to feel comfortable.

We don't need him to be Cam. But we do need him to be more open as the top pick. The social media age in relation to sports is is all about visibility. Certainly people are different and have different frames. I would have to differ from you on downplaying the significance of adding muscle however. Now certainly we can get into the weeds on the discussion of physically gifted QB's going on to becoming busts. There are many many of them. The unfortunate conundrum for that in relation to Bryce Young is he does not have that built in physical advantage with which to compensate other lacking areas. He is an outlier among outliers in terms of his physical attributes. He is going to have to go the extra mile and frankly a few more after that minimum if he is going to become a franchise QB let alone an elite QB for several years. I thought we were mostly over the durability discussion. It's not that big of a concern. Injuries can and will happen to any QB. Although. Again. We must acknowledge size wise he is very rare. He is the smallest starting QB in the league isn't he? With the right OL additions this is not something to be super concerned about generally. But it's going to remain a source of discussion particularly from other fans and teams as the season unfolds. People are going to point out how small he looks out there whether we like it or not. We knew we were going to hear about this for a long time when we made the decision to select him first overall. Just have to live with it.

I'd be all for that. Absolutely some of this has gotten beyond redundant. But it's all we have right now. When you make a move like we did to pick someone first overall all roads will always lead back to them until the team starts winning something anything. Honestly not at all. I would be thrilled to see that from him directly. Some of the stuff from the team is fluff we can argue about it but we know it's true. If BY gave fans an in depth look into his process on his own not just from the team that would eliminate a lot of this repeat discussion. But I guess that's not him. He's doing things the way he always has. Maybe that's fine and will work out I don't know I can't say. On the other hand some could reasonably argue due to the historical significance of his rookie season for the wrong reasons he should have given consideration to shaking up his approach to these matters. Not doing so leaves doors open to criticisms for the time being. People don't have to like it but that comes with the territory of becoming the face of a franchise.

Thanks for the reasonable input. And just to be clear. I can say for myself I've never expected the guy to get "ripped" or "jacked" in one offseason like some Christian McCaffrey level poo. I have not seen anyone else suggest that either. Adding at least a minimal level of muscle and weight isn't an unfathomable expectation for a top pick. Even our previous GM spoke about this. He's been canned. All the more reason for our franchise player to want to show he can do this. I wouldn't even say it's about durability. No one can really even question that. That's one thing we can say is he seemed to be pretty tough phsyically in terms of taking punishment within the pocket. It's about arm strength and doing anything possible to increase that. There were times last season where even with time and the oline wasn't a pile of crap he just wouldn't or couldn't attempt certain throws. We cannot repeat that in 2024. Defenses are already going to be looking for it. They have the tape. But I agree and most others do as well the offense was lacking in several areas besides just QB last year. Anyone with eyes could see that. However we did just shell out over 100 million dollars to address a significant portion of that lacking part of our offense. All the more reason for Bryce Young to look like he's at least touched a few weights.

From that angle he is a near doppelganger for him. My mistake. You say I'm not about truth. Yet you and others want to run off some of the few fans of this team that are left after the last several years of losing consistently because they don't subscribe to your way of thinking. We shouldn't be relegated to trying to spot this or that player in one or two random IG stories. Bryce Young is the franchise. Get in there and use your platform to let the people of your city know what you are doing to bring some wins and some level any level of respect back for the team around league circles. If you feel that is too much to ask we will have to agree to disagree.

The all white combo had really grown stale for me so I didn't mind seeing the team try different looks. Surely there's a uniform update around the corner soon anyway. But at this point they can wear whatever the hell they want as long as they quit losing in embarrassing ways.

For the sake of the QB they better. People have somehow forgotten how our OL has looked in the middle since Ryan Kalil left.