frankw

Yeah 3rd down in general for this team on both sides of the ball is an absolute house of horrors. And if our offense is on the field and it's anything more than a 3rd and 5 forget it.

Two functional human beings actually voted for option 10?

We've never seen them outside of the structure of two very well ran organizations I'll give you that. And yes they are long in the tooth. I do think they are more than capable of getting a franchise turned around in short term capacity though. They are by no means a long term solution.

Mike MacDonald is doing quite well in Seattle. Former defensive coordinator under Harbaugh.

The Panthers should have been drafting OL from jump street. All this salary cap (most in the NFL) in the group and we needed every little thing to go right for us to win the division and get a playoff spot as we lost 6 out of our last 8 games.

Did you watch the end of the Rams playoff game along with the rest of us? Soon to be 38 year old Matthew Stafford with a bum hand went right down the field to take the lead and they kept all 3 timeouts. Bryce Young had 4 chances to get the ball into the hands of one of his receivers and threw one borderline catchable ball. Injecting the word elite into any conversation about Bryce is at this point sheer insanity.

We both run a 3-4 defense and retain Evero at the insistence of David Tepper.

Wildest head coaching cycle in recent memory. The LAST thing we need is the Bucs or Falcons getting either Tomlin or Harbaugh.

Dan has also gone out of his way to tell everyone he is a staunch BY guy. I have no idea why people don't believe him when he says these things. Just because he is a former Panther doesn't mean he's incapable of making mistakes.

Alex Smith was a more efficient passer and had a higher YPA. They are comparable in some ways but at 6'4 213 Alex Smith was not limited the way Bryce is.

Bradley Bozeman is the Chargers center. Tell me how Bryce Young looked with Bradley Bozeman in front of him his rookie year? As far as Bryce "evading" the rush I've lost count how many times I've seen him bail on the pocket to his right and throw a wounded duck to the ground. You are trying to make him out to be some kind of magician outside the pocket and he just is not that guy at the NFL level. Anyways we are clearly never going to see eye to eye and you've been caping for this guy on multiple accounts since we drafted him so feel free to quote someone else and carry on with your shtick.

This would be the path for a competent franchise. It remains to be seen if it will actually happen.

Multiple key guys we need to retain. We are now officially at the beginning of the crossroads though. Unlike the Texans who already have a stout defense built up we need to invest a great deal of resources into our defense. Can't pay everybody retain and improve our OL and potentially extend our young quarterback to a $100+ million contract as well. Tough decisions are going to need to be made. And the days of wanting only the best around him are about to be in the rearview.

Anyone who disagrees with you either flips burgers or is an unemployed deadbeat while you cape daily for free for a billionaire and his favorite son. Get over yourself bud.

Man get some help. Up at 7 am wasting keystrokes raging about CJ Stroud. He's got 3 playoff wins. We got zilch. Accept it and get over it.

Either of these teams will get absolutely abused by the Patriots.

The only plus for the Texans right now is they are going up against Aaron Rodgers.

Stroud has not looked good at all. But the Texans are still in it because they have invested in other areas. They are 25 out of 32 in offensive line spending compared to the Panthers who are #1 to the detriment of the rest of the roster. Folks are digging in on bashing CJ so hard because they are desperate to compensate for their guy. Honestly cringe.

Stroud does not look dialed in.

Princely is very confident. He even told Tepper on the draft call that he would have to break their pockets in three or four years. Look I love the confidence. I love the attitude. But I don't love any form of blame game for underwhelming if the talk isn't turning into results. Blaming Evero is not moving the needle for me. If he's as good as he thinks he is he will flash regardless. I hope he does.

Lmfao. Bozeman is their center? And I've got folks here trying to convince me that without a doubt Bryce would have defeated the Patriots in place of Herbert. WITH BRADLEY BOZEMAN IN FRONT OF HIM????

Most Panthers fans seem to be in agreement that we could and should upgrade Evero. But I do think there is an aspect that differentiates Princely from Scourton beyond snap counts. Princely got humbled to a degree in his rookie season. Hopefully he takes that to heart appropriately and uses it constructively.

I've already addressed this notion in a previous reply. You are basing your assertion outside reality if you think Bryce would have not only been more successful but defeated the Patriots in place of Herbert. Bryce got blown off the field by that Patriots team with the highest paid OL in the league. We've seen Bryce with an OL that gave up 65 sacks and it resulted in the #1 pick. And that is not a defense of Herbert or arguing he is a great QB in any way. He has physical talent but he has been similar to Darnold early in his career in terms of his very up and down perfomances. However that does not change the fact that they have significantly less invested in the OL than the Panthers.

Right and I think we can have a conversation about that. But even with the scheme he should still be able to muster more than 1.5 sacks right? I mean DJ Johnson played in Evero's scheme too but that didn't stop us from calling him a bust. Scourton didn't seem to have trouble flashing. There can be different things true at one time.

Evero criticism goes without saying but Princely was outspokenly confident before the season and I was all for it but he did not back that up at all. He needs to focus his energy on that.