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As much as it hurts to mention the two in the same convo given what we sacrificed to draft Bryce there are definite parallels between them. First there's the passing completion percentage number. Bryce Young finished his rookie season with a 59.8 and Sam Darnold is at 59.7 for his career. Then there's the ever used excuse about coaching. Adam Gase Frank Reich same poo. Sam also had a mostly awful to mediocre offensive line in NY. Same excuse was used here with Rhule. We know everything that followed. The very brief 3 game high and the factory of sadness that awaited. Demeanor wise they both seem to generally be very friendly likeable and reasonably intelligent guys. On field though there just seems to be something missing. If you draft a QB first or top 3 you want him to show you his competiveness even if he's going down swinging. My own observation is it seems like both Sam and Bryce were just going through the motions. Like at the end of the day it's just a job not the end of the world. Hey there's nothing wrong with that for QB's who just want to fill a career bouncing around as a backup. But for at the very top of the draft you need to see a whole lot more than that. The thing about Sam is he actually has every physical tool you could want. And even then it's still not enough. Bryce Young doesn't have that advantage and he's had really bad footwork to boot. I guess we'll have to see if the super processor smaller Payton Manning talk ever comes to fruition because he's going to need it.

I stopped paying any mind to the Mingo is a bust it's not Bryce's fault talk after BY missed him deep for that easy long touchdown.

What makes the debate even worse is some people here not only dug in on one QB over the other but when it became apparent BY was our pick they basically said Stroud was going to be a bust. And enough of this revisionist history crap. Nobody here had the Texans and their pre training camp outlook pegged as a playoff team. All this he went to a better situation mess came about once Bryce Young cemented his rookie season as one of the all time worst. If you want the conversation to go away then stop making threads about it and definitely stop trying to rewrite history. Nobody wants to hear that nonsense anymore.

All Burns talk aside it's easy to see why the defense finally got fed up with the historically pitiful offense led by Bryce Young. We were 32 out of 32 in offensive yards per game for the season and 32 out of 32 in total passing yards. I'm still waiting to see anything about Bryce working with his receivers in his own time over these last few months. Seems like that would be pretty important to him given the excuses we kept hearing about a supposed lack of chemistry.

Good is a subjective term open to a world of interpretation though. If he's in the elite convo which even CJ Stroud was as a rookie that will shut up pretty much anyone. Cam is a different matter altogether. Cam Newton received a lot of that vitriol because he was absolutely unapologetic about his confidence and also expressing himself on and off the football field not just as a QB but a black athlete under the microscope just for existing. The Tennessee mom fan effect. Bryce Young is not going to have to worry about much of that if at all. That's not who he is that is not his personality. And that's fine. We just need to see him lift himself and the team around him as a competitor and become the leader of what is now his team.

I can safely say that 99.9% of the Carolina Huddle would be thrilled and relieved to see that even the detractors. Winning cures all. What's wrong with waffles? They're fuging delicious.

No reason at all to disrespect the man in general. Being Bryce's dad however doesn't mean we need his input on roster building. If anyone is suggesting this common sense notion is personally disrespectful for a franchise that has the worst win percentage in sports the last few years well maybe assess what your priorities are. On the other hand I guess he can't be any worse than Scott Fitterer or our scouting department responsible for the last couple years of drafts.

That's what I'm worried about since Morgan and the Tepper's need to save face for the trade and the pick. To me that should result in us taking a QB early in 2025. Let them both compete and go from there. But I have a feeling the current decision makers would use it as an excuse to double down on Bryce. My position is he needs to look like a top 12-15 QB minimum for me not to draft another one in 2025. I want what's best for my franchise. Emotions and reputation salvaging for the front office can't enter the equation.

He probably has an account here.

Draft a top offensive talent and keep it pushing.

It's comical how poorly run we've been compared to even the Bears. Now they can draft yet another QB and load up with even more top end talent. Question is can they draft worth a damn. We'll see.

Bryce Young can completely change the narrative around this by the end of the year. Hopefully he does. That being said some people (they know who they are) are borderline living a fantasy downplaying the current outlook on this trade until then.

Other than Mike Tomlin the Steelers seem to be a mess organizationally.

Indeed. There's also the small matter of actually being able to you know..draft kinda well..instead of the worst drafts anyone has seen in years. We also retained the scouting department from those drafts. Then there's the matter of our current GM being directly involved in the process of those drafts. Yeah... needless to say let's dial back the offseason award ceremony until we see this come together in preseason.

All of this. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's working his ass off and extra motivated until I see how his vibe is in camp and if he looks the part of a #1 pick that knows his rookie season was unacceptable regardless of extenuating circumstances. I sincerely hope such is the case because I'll be rooting loudly for him. But in the event it isn't any of that I'm just going to get an early start on the 2025 QB class.

Wonnum is a younger stopgap for a few years and maybe he blossoms under Evero kind of signing. Whom I assume had a good level of input. I very much doubt many people are under any illusions he's a direct Burns replacement.

That's a very solid deal for his age and potential. Now sign Clowney.

The cringy laser eye poo needs to be gone for good. It's worse than the "I got this" Hurney sunglasses poo.

The remaining options weren't exactly stellar but I like his potential. Just please not a heavy overpay.

Wow that's a pretty good move for the Seahawks. He could do well there under MacDonald.

I've been a Panthers fan long enough to remember many a paper champions offseason moves. Let's see these fellas in August and go from there.

Paying Calvin Ridley that much money is why I keep saying draft draft draft. Dan better HIT.