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If the gameplan to fix the offense with Bryce as QB is to pass the ball as little as necessary then yeah we're drafting QB next year without a doubt.

If anyone in the building still uses the term point guard in reference to the QB they should be removed immediately.

When Mac Jones has a significantly better deep ball than your top pick you traded DJ Moore and a first overall pick for...

I feel like if he goes somewhere else he's going to look like a threat again.

There are certainly things to like. If Canales is indeed the right hire at the right time that will go a long way in restoring the competitiveness at minimum. But. We also have to be able to draft worth a damn. That's the variable we're on pins and needles waiting to see how it plays out. Morgan needs to HIT in this draft or the coach doesn't matter. I'll be ready to pop the champagne in the fall after I've seen enough results to feel comfortable.

We don't need him to be Cam. But we do need him to be more open as the top pick. The social media age in relation to sports is is all about visibility. Certainly people are different and have different frames. I would have to differ from you on downplaying the significance of adding muscle however. Now certainly we can get into the weeds on the discussion of physically gifted QB's going on to becoming busts. There are many many of them. The unfortunate conundrum for that in relation to Bryce Young is he does not have that built in physical advantage with which to compensate other lacking areas. He is an outlier among outliers in terms of his physical attributes. He is going to have to go the extra mile and frankly a few more after that minimum if he is going to become a franchise QB let alone an elite QB for several years. I thought we were mostly over the durability discussion. It's not that big of a concern. Injuries can and will happen to any QB. Although. Again. We must acknowledge size wise he is very rare. He is the smallest starting QB in the league isn't he? With the right OL additions this is not something to be super concerned about generally. But it's going to remain a source of discussion particularly from other fans and teams as the season unfolds. People are going to point out how small he looks out there whether we like it or not. We knew we were going to hear about this for a long time when we made the decision to select him first overall. Just have to live with it.

I'd be all for that. Absolutely some of this has gotten beyond redundant. But it's all we have right now. When you make a move like we did to pick someone first overall all roads will always lead back to them until the team starts winning something anything. Honestly not at all. I would be thrilled to see that from him directly. Some of the stuff from the team is fluff we can argue about it but we know it's true. If BY gave fans an in depth look into his process on his own not just from the team that would eliminate a lot of this repeat discussion. But I guess that's not him. He's doing things the way he always has. Maybe that's fine and will work out I don't know I can't say. On the other hand some could reasonably argue due to the historical significance of his rookie season for the wrong reasons he should have given consideration to shaking up his approach to these matters. Not doing so leaves doors open to criticisms for the time being. People don't have to like it but that comes with the territory of becoming the face of a franchise.

Thanks for the reasonable input. And just to be clear. I can say for myself I've never expected the guy to get "ripped" or "jacked" in one offseason like some Christian McCaffrey level poo. I have not seen anyone else suggest that either. Adding at least a minimal level of muscle and weight isn't an unfathomable expectation for a top pick. Even our previous GM spoke about this. He's been canned. All the more reason for our franchise player to want to show he can do this. I wouldn't even say it's about durability. No one can really even question that. That's one thing we can say is he seemed to be pretty tough phsyically in terms of taking punishment within the pocket. It's about arm strength and doing anything possible to increase that. There were times last season where even with time and the oline wasn't a pile of crap he just wouldn't or couldn't attempt certain throws. We cannot repeat that in 2024. Defenses are already going to be looking for it. They have the tape. But I agree and most others do as well the offense was lacking in several areas besides just QB last year. Anyone with eyes could see that. However we did just shell out over 100 million dollars to address a significant portion of that lacking part of our offense. All the more reason for Bryce Young to look like he's at least touched a few weights.

From that angle he is a near doppelganger for him. My mistake. You say I'm not about truth. Yet you and others want to run off some of the few fans of this team that are left after the last several years of losing consistently because they don't subscribe to your way of thinking. We shouldn't be relegated to trying to spot this or that player in one or two random IG stories. Bryce Young is the franchise. Get in there and use your platform to let the people of your city know what you are doing to bring some wins and some level any level of respect back for the team around league circles. If you feel that is too much to ask we will have to agree to disagree.

The all white combo had really grown stale for me so I didn't mind seeing the team try different looks. Surely there's a uniform update around the corner soon anyway. But at this point they can wear whatever the hell they want as long as they quit losing in embarrassing ways.

For the sake of the QB they better. People have somehow forgotten how our OL has looked in the middle since Ryan Kalil left.

You can't not be impressed with Canales so far. He has the energy and charisma in spades and he knows his stuff about the ins and outs of the game. Of course what we need to know is how he coaches on GameDays. That's only where it really matters. He has a tough job ahead of him. But if he can bring back a culture here that is not about accepting losing that's a start.

You know it's spot on. That's it? One pic on a treadmill one of him hanging out with Stroud and one working with an unknown coach? I'd like to see him trying to take Mingo under his wing considering they were drafted together and will grow together if this situation is somehow to be salvaged.

It's weird this is the end game for some of you. Like it's either you are totally in blind support or you're a traitor or something. Hey. That sounds a bit like the followers of a certain political candidate. Luckily it doesn't work that way. Generally players who are highly touted and drafted high especially at QB and first overall prove on the field why they were drafted there. Bryce Young has already received his early flowers before he even had to play a single snap in the NFL thanks to the hype from the media and Panthers fans here who bought it and jumped in head first. Some of you don't want him to face adversity or criticism for some reason. That's your prerogative but not how it's going to work for him. You can shout into the void at people you perceive to be critical of him as much as you'd like. He still has 17 matchups later this year with defenses who unlike some of you here won't be watching his 2023 gametape and thinking to themselves how bad they feel for him.

If one single workout session that was plastered all over social media well before training camp is your definition of your #1 pick digging deep to connect with his receivers and his teammates in general after hyping him up as Payton Manning on the leadership scale I guess more power to you. Some of us actually want to see it on the field. Results there said the guy looked like he had barely uttered two words to them outside of team activities. You don't like that being acknowledged. Too bad.

Thank goodness for Derrick Brown.

You think it's funny but the rest of us remember folks like you looking down on others telling people it's only preseason last year. Keep thinking you're so above it all though.

Didn't we proceed to play some of our worst football of the season following that game including one where our top pick threw two gut wrenching pick sixes to the same defender?

Talk that size bro mess to the defenses Bryce Young will be facing in 2024.

We got substantially worse and even ended up being shut out by the Jags missing their starting QB post Reich. Just saying.

6 yards per pass attempt in 2019 compared to Bryce Young at 5.5 and 62% completion to Bryce Young's 59.8 Doesn't seem that far off sadly.

Truth hurts as they say.

The tone of this discussion in the face of facts and actual truths is beginning to remind me of Kyle Allen. Hell at least he showed some flashes to justify the vehement defenses of him.

He received ROTY honors. He looked like he belonged at every level even before Auburn. You're diminishing him to prop up BY.