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Thank you. This is a much more reasonable take than some of the other posts made about this. Nothing I can disagree with other than I have seen no one saying we should simply pay Moore whatever cost he demands. Of course we would not and should not do that. However the glaring reality is if he has another big season we will have to pay market value and some folks might have reservations about that which is understandable but if you want talent that is the way the NFL works now. He won't be the only tough contract decision either so we may be in store for some unpopular moves if we still find ourselves searching for an answer at quarterback this time next year. Let us hope things work more in our favor for a change this go round.
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In his best season to date and five years younger Teddy threw one more touchdown than an aging Andy Dalton at the tail end of his career. At best you could call it a push and that would be honestly generous.
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You guys can dunk on Andy Dalton if it makes you feel better but he's still an upgrade over two gloves as sad as that truth is.
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To go along with your list of receivers you might as well add the quarterbacks who were throwing to them. Aaron Rodgers Kirk Cousins Kyler Murray Matt Ryan Drew Brees Tom Brady Dak Prescott Patrick Mahomes Justin Herbert Josh Allen Russell Wilson It's almost as if talented receivers thrive when they have franchise quarterbacks to pair with. Strange huh?
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David only netted 500 yards in his best season with the team though. Moore has eclipsed 1100 yards in consecutive seasons with a one armed Cam Newton Kyle Allen Will Grier Teddy Bridgewater and a quarterback from the xfl. Am I saying throw him a blank check? No. But should we be declaring him possibly the next Kelvin Benjamin parking cars in a few years when he is entering his third season the same age as kb was as a rookie? Like many things it's somewhere in the middle but the upcoming season will give us the answers we seek.
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He's always been a great teammate and professional about his craft. In regards to other running backs you don't see that much because fewer and fewer teams are building around the position or making one the face of their franchise. Hopefully the Panthers are the team to buck that trend but time and history are not on our side at the moment.
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As a Panthers fan old enough to remember the days of folks declaring David Gettis the next goat I cannot understand why some want so badly to treat DJ Moore like the last kid picked at dodgeball or something. My god just appreciate what ya got!
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Cap space is always a big deal for a team at the bottom of their division. And make no mistake about it that is exactly where we are and have been the last couple of years. Teddy not only didn't change that we were arguably worse off because we sunk over 100 million dollars in only three players last year and didn't move an inch toward improving our record in the nfc south. That is just awful.
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I miss those early days of hope when he was bullying defensive backs. He is not without blame but he was hit with some awful circumstances in a short time. It is sad to see people continuing to pile on him for his physical appearance all these years later but they are just projecting like many do on social media now.
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Butler had the tools he just didn't care to be great or have the tenacity to build a dominant prolonged career. Some guys come into the league looking to create a lifestyle and others want to cement their status in the history books. The timing of the pick couldn't have been worse but the misfires in free agency were ultimately the undoing of any chances the Panthers had at making a final run with that group.
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Agonizing over the cost of moving on is akin to crying over spilt milk. It's already happened. This possible outcome was set in stone when he signed on the dotted line. We took a gamble. It didn't work out. The only thing to do now is what is best for the team and the overall trajectory of the upcoming season. If that means removing a possible distraction at a cost then so be it.
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Was this ever not corny? We really need some swag on this team again.
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In the back of my mind I expected this but signing Gordon was a move Charlotte had to make to establish some semblance of legitimacy. Who else wants to come play here?
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Colin Cowherd: Matt Kalil and Sam Darnold
frankw replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
The more clowns like Cowherd try and talk up Sam Darnold the more I hope we snag another quarterback in the draft for insurance. -
Higly coveted college quarterback projected number one overall talks about life after football before his name has been called in the draft and is praised for his values and no one questions what ill intentions may be hiding behind his smile. Trevor Lawrence is certainly blessed with something.
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Are You Really Against Fields or Lance if they fall to #8...
frankw replied to SetfreexX's topic in Carolina Panthers
Only wallet clutching cheapskates on the huddle are afraid of taking a quarterback. Fitterer has already said we could move up or trade back depending on scenarios. It all hinges on if the 49ers are crazy enough to take Jones at 3. -
No team wants Teddy with that awful contract no matter how many homer Panthers fans around here tell themselves it isn't that bad. We swooped in and outbid ourselves with a deal Bridgewater couldn't sign fast enough. Very shades of 2010. He will be cut and we will eat a chunk of salary cap we could have used beefing up the offensive line.
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Panthers Well Represented at Fields 2nd Pro Day
frankw replied to ncfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
It was a legitimate complaint but the fact we had a franchise quarterback was the piece that held it all together whether we had a consistent left tackle or not. Do we go 15-1 and appear in super bowl 50 if we took Marcell Dareus instead of a signal caller like many wanted? People are hung up on left tackle because it's been so long since Gross and think we can plug one in and we are done but within the next twelve months we still need a center and there are no guarantees we workout a long term deal with Taylor Moton. No matter which angle you look at this from the offensive line is far from being complete if that even happens because things don't often go according to plan in sports and injuries happen too. -
Teddy hasn't reached out to Sam yet following the trade
frankw replied to JABANOG's topic in Carolina Panthers
So no different than the guy before him then or the guy before that? Winning seems to be the cure all while losing only brings uncomfortable questions and fan anger. Go figure. Who knew right? -
Panthers Well Represented at Fields 2nd Pro Day
frankw replied to ncfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I share your skepticism but pickings are slim to say the least. I used to be where you are but eventually you have to release all that negative energy and let go of what was and embrace what will be both good and bad. I hope you find peace with it brother. -
Ryan Grigson's biggest problem wasn't just which specific positions he was selecting but that he was an awful evaluator of talent period. To apply a well this is what Ryan Grigson did and it didn't work out label to every mock that doesn't have us taking a left tackle is silliness. Fitterer could be great or he could be a dud we won't know for a few years but Seattle hasn't exactly been known for stellar drafts as of late.
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Teddy hasn't reached out to Sam yet following the trade
frankw replied to JABANOG's topic in Carolina Panthers
He is one of those football fans who holds millionaire athletes to a different standard than the billionaire owners who hold cities hostage over stadiums. Don't expect much. -
Teddy only had 2 2nd-half TD passes in 2020, none after Wk 4
frankw replied to KSpan's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Teddy only had 2 2nd-half TD passes in 2020, none after Wk 4
frankw replied to KSpan's topic in Carolina Panthers
So basically Darnold or whomever is the next long term starter would have to be the worst quarterback in NFL history to be worse than Bridgewater. -
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