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What exactly has Dan Arnold done to get this hype and be mentioned in the same breath as Olsen? He's got a uphill climb to earn that level of respect and two catches for six yards ain't it. He was available cheap for a reason.

We know his reputation. We can make fun of him all we want but still have to beat him. Jokes on us if we lose to that

Fans that keep saying Winston is a joke?

Right but Carolina hasn't manhandled the Saints like that in years is all I'm saying. We should have done to the Jets what they did to the Packers truthfully.

Ya'll gotta stop leaning on this and realize other teams have talent too. For all the complaints in this thread about pessimism some folks are delusional on the other end of the spectrum too.

True but I wouldn't use the Jets as a way to gauge our run D just yet. The Saints have a very dynamic offense and the likelihood is we will definitely have to muster more than 19 points.

For Rodgers to lay an egg like that after all his look at me antics through the offseason is just brutal. Unmotivated opponent or not the Saints are a problem in this division.

This was just the getting his feet wet game. We'll know plenty after the Saints matchup. Let us all hope Joe Brady brings his best playcalling effort bc today was not great.

If the only MVP in our history was average it's time to raise the bar for everybody this season. With that in mind we should have been able to manage more than 19 points against the worst team in the league.

Saints having their way with the Packers. Seems unlikely their full steam ahead to last place in our division. Joe Brady should watch and take some pointers on what a versatile offense looks like since he's so enamored with them.

Held to 19 points against the undisputed worst team in the nfl at home. The oline actually wasn't quite as bad as we had prepared ourselves for. Certainly not in comparison to the Jets. Darnold was only sacked once. Playcalling needs much more consistency if we hope to win eight or more games.

21 carries and 9 receptions he led in both. We actually didn't give a single carry to another rb. And we still only beat the Jets by 5. To say our playcalling could use some versatility is not whining it's common sense. If the goal is to improve on 3rd place in our division then we should expect more in the following weeks.

There are things to like and I'm happy with the win but if we show up like we did in the second half against the Bucs or Saints it's going to get out of hand fast. Don't get the hapless Jets for 16 more weeks. If you look at the best offenses in the league they are not one dimensional yet Carolina seems to be hellbent on this even if it means running McCaffrey into the ground. CMC is not built to be what they are wanting to use him as which is a battering ram. It didn't work for long with Superman who was built like a specimen and it isn't going to work here. Sorry but that's the rub.

He needs to use something else in his playbook besides "plz save me CMC". This offense needs versatility. What baffles me is all the hob knobbing over Sean Payton and the Saints offense only for us to keep looking so one dimensional despite adding weapons in the offseason.

If you're going to use McCaffrey that's how you do it get him out in space. This up the gut play on repeat isn't it.

Wilson can sling it. He's going to have a hard time with the Jets but the arm talent can't be denied.

Unless our playcalling pulls a 180 I guess they're going to hold us under 20 after all. The Jets...

Do we just not trust our other backs at all? CMC is not Derrick Henry mix it up.

I'm past the point of laughter this needs to change he is a crutch for this staff. Why did we even bring in other weapons? We finally got on the board when we uncorked one to Robby what did we do giving CMC 25 touches in the half before that? Open the offense geez.

I laughed but you aren't wrong. Let's see what they do here.

I've tried to be fair to Sam today there's been positives and negatives. I think there is plenty to be happy about if our line holds and Sam builds better continuity with our weapons. But we need to use them all.

Well I mean that was kinda his thing when we brought him in. Jekyll/Hyde dynamic. Brady and the oline hasn't helped tho.

High throws gotta settle down.

Wilson taking a beating damn almost feel sorry for him. Our interior oline is iffy but Sam gotta be grinning a bit seeing this. Could be worse.

They have competition in that division but they are on the rise. It's less of a statement on Arizona and more surprise to see a team like the Titans getting pushed around early.