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That's good to hear but idk if this staff can resist giving him 30 touches a game if he's available.

The term decent in this case is very much debatable. When the oline is in Sam's lap I think we are seeing best case with some of these linemen. We have sunk 14 million guaranteed between the two if they aren't starting material then it's time to see what we have in the younger guys.

Brown is a little different situation from BC but the revisionist history about why we drafted Christensen is getting annoying. One of our top needs was tackle. We were thrilled when we got him and we passed on other talent on the board. He should be working his way into the rotation soon that's all there is to it.

The Falcons and Giants are awful but they both have managed to score more points than the Panthers so far this season. We need to throttle these inferior opponents we have the weapons.

The better teams in the league have been putting up around 30 and some 40. The Cowboys did the week before. If we want to compete for a playoff berth or even a winning season we are going to have to find a way to get there. The protection for Sam could be better but the deep ball has to present itself soon bc 20ish is enough for bad or mediocre teams but teams like the Cards and Bills for example can and will lay it on us.

History was in reference to one or more units being manhandled by a good team and the reality that we can scheme around some of that but the personnel are what they are. We feasted on some bad teams that's what we were supposed to do but we have to figure out our process against better opponents if we're to have a winning record in the back half of our schedule. If you look at some of the numbers we should have won. TOP we had the ball 33 mins in comparison to their 26. Both teams had 24 first downs they converted 3 third downs we converted 4. We were 3 for 3 on fourth down. But what cooked us was giving up almost 250 rushing yards and our qb getting sacked 5 times. We had no deep ball game to speak of. We can work around some of the oline troubles but if we keep letting good teams run on us like that it's going to be a wrap. I've seen that story with past Panthers teams and it doesn't matter how good the coach is your roster is your roster. We need to start scoring more points we have weapons. Even the Eagles have been dropping 30 points this season and we have yet to do so and we had CMC. I feel for Sam it's a tough situation but he and Joe B gotta get this offense opened up.

I get the frustration but ultimately we lost to a better opponent. All this talk of bad calls or missed calls makes us sound like Saints fans grasping for excuses. The refs didn't assemble this struggling offensive line. That's all on us. But Rhule has to figure it out. We leaned heavily on our defense the first three games now we have to get this offense going. And tho the line isn't where we need it to be Sam still has to connect on those deep passes or teams will keep teeing off on him

Unfortunately. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/cameron-erving-16743/ https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/pat-elflein-21812/

Right but that 245 yards on the ground and 433 yards in total on our defense says they stepped on our necks. Hopefully this will motivate our guys to go on another win streak but how we looked in the trenches is concerning for any Panthers fan that knows their history.

The talk about refs and holding may hold weight with our own fans but nobody else cares. We got punched in the mouth from the start and they didn't let up. Carolina ran into a more motivated opponent with a damn good oline and plenty talent of their own. In truth we seemed ill-prepared for the moment. Can't have that if a winning season is the goal.

You from Texas? Please tell me not another Cowboys fan living in the Carolinas. You and the Steelers fans are insufferable.

I can agree with some of this but getting blown off the field in the trenches is going to linger for a bit when people have been talking for months about oline. The Eagles are a get right game but no gimme either we have to sustain drives better and Sam has to step it up same as anyone else.

If our rookie linemen aren't ready maybe we should have pursued better fa options than two overpaid speed bumps

Center above everything. If we moved on from Erving it would cost us over 5 million in dead cap and if we move on from both him and Elflein next year it would be ten million in dead cap. Odds are they aren't going anywhere. Bad signings.

An entire draft to defense and both first rounders the last two years to defense and we get gashed for 30+ and get destroyed in the trenches while our oline looks just horrendous. Next year the first second and third goal should be beefing up this oline full of maulers and please let's move on from Paradis. The Broncos knew what was up all along but of course we came sniffing around thinking he would be different

No point even getting worked up about it. If the league did nothing when Denver was trying to turn our quarterbacks brains into mush with headhunting they aren't going to give a poo about getting calls right in our favor. We need to stop wasting drives and this game could have been much closer.

I can give Sam a pass for the turnovers bc this oline is booty cheeks but he's gotta start connecting on those deep passes the excuses are only going to get him so far.

These threads before the game is even halfway over with rarely end well for the Panthers. Should know better by now.

I can't get mad at Sam when we trotted out an oline barely better than what he had with the Jets. We did this to ourselves.

Worst oline in years

Any thoughts @SBBlue?

Dangerous throw. Bad Sam finally showed up. Welp gotta regroup.

From 3-0 to oh poo let's pack it in in the third quarter

Down big to Mike McCarthy oof.