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Bryce Young needs to send Daniel Jones a fruit basket or something at least. That man singlehandedly improved his W-L record.

Let's just dispense with the company line about Andy's sprained thumb like he had it amputed and just acknowledge Bryce is starting because Andy stunk up the joint and Dan Morgan and Dave Canales wasted the offseason making zero attempt at bringing in another young QB that could remotely challenge anyone.

I generally agree that we need to build our culture up and tanking in general isn't a real applicable practice in the NFL. At the same time people who are mocking others for being concerned about our draft position will absolutely be one of the first to gripe about teams ahead of us they don't like getting the best prospects. It's much easier to say you don't give a poo in November. Come draft night in April anyone that's spent enough time around here knows what's gonna happen.

If Canales has any semblance of the concept of self preservation given that this is his first head coaching gig and we were the only team to interview him then he's already made up his mind on this QB room by now.

For right now with how young this team is and the situation with Center the fact that they are out there playing hard for one another and not just laying down is always going to be preferable to how things went the last few seasons seeing guys laughing on the sideline while getting blown out. I'll gladly take this improvement for the time being. Lee is already changing the culture we just have to give him time.

Idk about the rest of ya'll but I'm ready for the Chiefs game....

The production is the production we are not talking about a mid to late round pick. Most fans know what to expect the rest of the season. They just want to see new life and competition brought into the QB room in the offseason. Because the goal is not only to compete but to improve. And we can do neither of those with QB play that is statistically at the very bottom of the NFL. If you disagree with that then the issue isn't others. The issue is you.

Something most of us can actually agree on. Will it actually happen though? If the owner hasn't budged yet even after public pleas from players such as Shaq Thompson then don't hold your breath. It doesn't even seem like this is a cost issue at this point it seems like it's just Tepper being stubborn and petty. Call it for what it is.

Do you want to see one of our most important players who we just signed to a contract extension hurt trying to haul in an errant throw that was already well behind the line of scrimmage on third and long? If you think that's me looking for something to complain about then good luck with whatever fantasy world you're living in brother.

Man. Someone has gotta be so far down the rabbit hole they don't know which way is up to believe this to be true. Some of you are hopelessly delusional but you are certainly committed to the fantasy I'll give you that.

Of course there have been mitigating circumstances. It still doesn't erase or alter Bryce's overall body of work as a starting QB over 23 games and counting. He's starting the rest of the season we've got no choice in that regardless. I dont know what Canales sees for Bryce beyond the rest of this season. I certainly can speculate based on what I'm seeing with my own two eyes that he knows full well his offense is limited with Bryce. You do agree that is the case yes? As far as going forward. How he finishes the season is irrelevant to me. I like Bryce Young the person. That's not the issue. We still need to draft another young QB and add a new veteran to replace Dalton. We need new life in our QB room it has to be done for the good of the fanbase we've been through nearly two full seasons of largely awful to mediocre at best QB play. This is a sports franchise that runs on results not personal feelings or catering to one player. We have to do what is best for the team.

Everyone that has actually seen him play more than only this season has been waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Hey @Loyalty4Life go compare undrafted Kyle Allen's numbers in 13 games with the Panthers to Bryce Young's numbers in 23 games and come back here and tell us again how this place is ready to cut bait way too early. Either you work for the team or you're related to Bryce somehow.

The bar is so low it's comical. The yardage and touchdown output are downright pitiful. Look back to the brief hoopla over Kyle Allen. 13 games 3322 yards 17 touchdowns 16 interceptions 6.8 yards per attempt 62% completion Bryce Young in 23 games. 10 more games than Kyle Allen. 3571 yards 14 touchdowns 16 interceptions 5.5 yards per attempt 59.8 completion One of those guys was undrafted. The other was drafted first overall. Yet still there are people here who rage about how anyone speaking real facts about the limited offense with Bryce Young is an irrational hater rooting for him to fail. It is unfathomable that people can come to such conclusion if they are assessing the situation realistically. Enough is enough.

Oh come on. The entire leadup to the draft was near universal praise of and building up of Bryce Young because he played for Alabama while Stroud and other QB's were knocked for everything from their IQ to their leadership ability to their coachability and on and on. Bryce even showed up to the combine and refused to participate and still got a free pass. It's interesting you go out of your way to trash Dalton but prop up Young. You do know the one game he played last season and the win against the Raiders are 2 of only 3 times we've scored 30 points in 2 years right? Truth is both of them look like backups. Dalton is only marginally better because he's a vet and will attempt some of those throws Bryce won't pull the trigger on. Anything else you are trying to convince yourself of is fantasy.

Were any of them drafted first overall?

Almost got Chuba hurt on two ill advised pass plays late in the game. Unacceptable.

Divisional games are always a crapshoot. But looking at our remaining schedule realistically and the offenses they possess I have a hard time believing 17 points are going to be enough to beat any of them. So realistically maybe we'll squeak one more win out.

The Bears got blown out by the Patriots and Caleb Williams finished with a YPA lower than Bryce Young. 4 yards per attempt lmfao. There is someone actually worse than our QB. Now THAT is something that is worth rejoicing over.

The person above is either trolling or works for the team in some capacity.

That's a good question. I haven't seen anyone saying they want him to fail. Some people might not believe he is ever going to be an average starter let alone a franchise quarterback but that is not rooting for him to fail is it? Is being happy that we are on a 2 game win streak and not losing badly for a change while also acknowledging we have played 2 of the worst teams in the league and Bryce Young has largely looked like a capable backup at best through both games rooting for him to fail? I think we've reached a point in this discourse where disagreements have become fodder for labels of true or false fandom and that's just absurd. Anyone who is here and has been here through all this historic losing is a real fan. We just need to chill a little bit on the labeling of opinions that challenge positivity being labeled as hate. At the end of the day we're all adults here and when we are faced with inconvenient truths we don't like we can't just blanket label that negativity and hate. It's simply a reality that we have to face. If someone does not want that then they are free to create their own community where that is not allowed.

He is making throws any QB could make he finished the game with the lowest yards per pass attempt of any qualified passer in the entire NFL. The entire league. If you want to set the bar lower than anyone else that is perfectly fine but just because the discussion you expect doesn't exist here doesn't mean anyone else is beneath you. It's perfectly fine that other people have standards.

I completely agree the last two wins have shown us despite our circumstances with the roster we absolutely still can compete on both sides of the ball. Everything keeps going back to QB because it's the most consequential position on the field. It's unfortunate that discussions end this way but what are ya gonna do at the end of the day? As of right now we have only scored 30 points 3 times between now and last season and 2 of those were when Dalton played. No matter what happens we have got to introduce new life into this QB room. I assume anyone here should be able to agree with that. In the meantime I'm just happy to win two games in a row.

Glad we can find some common ground. It's nice that there are actually a few teams somehow worse than us for a change. That's my main takeaway from the last 2 games. Now let's just see how ugly things get the rest of the way.