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At one point in the season yes there is no doubt we had a bottom 3 oline. Sam made horrific decisions with the football but he often had the middle of the line in his lap within a second. If your go to tactic is going to be to call people stupid you could at least attempt basic grammar and spelling. Joe Burrow (no s) is one of the best young quarterbacks in the game now. That's what real talent can do for you and mask deficiencies. It's what Cam did for the Panthers and Ron Rivera for several years. We'll see how far these excuses fly if Baker is eventually having a tough time back there. Hopefully he won't be.

Simms like the rest of these "analysts" go whichever way the wind blows. This should be reason to stop putting much stock in what this guy has to say about QB's moving forward

31 other teams didn't field the worst OL in the league last season. All this talk about the quality of our OL depth will be put to the test at the expense of Baker's health. I damn sure hope you are right bud.

Elflein Erving Jordan and Daley are all still on the roster. You're latching onto a position coach who will be out of a job same as anyone else if Rhule fails. It's like us bitching about the special teams coordinators all those years under Rivera when our ST was dogshit no matter who was the position coach.

Who has a 63 million dollar contract Campen or Rhule? Campen isn't in charge of practice and deciding which quarterbacks get reps with each group. And Matt Rhule was mishandling the OL months before he got here. No way he gets a pass from the fanbase if the oline is crap this season though so you need not worry about that.

Right but you have to make do with your depth as well and seeing two of your QB's take a beating isn't ideal. He isn't new to any of this though so hopefully Rhule let's him take the reigns and get us on track. We need continuity yesterday.

Well in fairness Campen inherited the worst olinemen on the roster that Matt Rhule and Scott Fitterer brought in. Daley Elflein Erving and Brown who got Corral blown up.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0841046/

Very underrated film.

The new Dwayne Jarrett?

Don't hate Matt Rhule. Don't support or engage in people making fun of his weight or his appearance or all this Fhule nonsense. If we went on to have a winning season and to the playoffs I would acknowledge and be happy he has proven people myself included wrong. But just as Ron Rivera received a great deal of blistering criticism that IMO was worse than what we are seeing now it was always going to happen to Matt too to some degree based on how he dropped his nutsack on the table and threw down the gauntlet with Cam Newton as his first order of business and did one thing after saying another. Following that up with the QB choices so far not even mentioning other factors is plenty justification for the criticism he has received. But I do agree that Fitterer should not get a pass. There's an odd dynamic here with Panthers general managers where fans immediately kick off a bromance of sorts and both Dave Gettleman and Scott Fitterer benefited from that before they had had actually done anything significant. But hey let's hope this team turns the corner. First order of business is capitalizing on the new look NFC South now without Drew Brees and Sean Payton. There should be no excuse not to this year.

The real rub is if Matt Rhule hadn't gotten his jimmies rustled when Teddy Bridgewater called out his offensive coaching staff for ineptitude we would not be saddled with Darnold and this neverending convo about another teams draft failure in the first place.

Not surprised a Rhule slurper doesn't want to hear the truth. Have fun with that. Cheers.

He wants you to think he isn't as miserable and bored as the rest of most of humanity who all live on social media. He's so above it all

So the 63 million dollar head coach and Scott Fitterer just let Joe Brady make the pick? They didn't want him?

Nobody has said Baker didn't have to come into camp and work. Sam had leadership questions and he was the statistical worst QB of the last few years when we signed him to that 18 million dollar option and then Rhule coddled him all through camp and tried to hide him in preseason to the point even the official team website had to finally be like "okay guys we're playing Sam we promise". Darnold didn't earn a starting job here or in NY he was handed it and that's why he went on a podcast after being the worst starting QB in the NFL last season and sounded like an entitled jackass.

Yet you dragged Aaron Rodgers Brett Favre and Tom Brady into this to make a point to defend Sam Darnold getting a chance to fight for his job lmao. It's your bedtime nobody cares about your grudge you're still carrying over from a tinderbox slapfight. Let it go. Sweet dreams honey.

Thanks you too bud!

You've been arguing with everyone here 24 hours straight and you can't even differentiate between bored and board and you're on here talking down to people about locker room dynamics. Take a break.

Your insults are cute. Who cares if he's liked or not? All of these guys value their careers and their longevity more than anything and if he's a hindrance to their progress nobody is going to bat an eye if he's out as the starter. It's a business. Remember that? All of these things go for Baker Mayfield too. Or did you already forget how he left Cleveland? And he actually brought the Browns their first playoff win in 26 years.

You don't have a point. You're dragging hall of fame quarterbacks into this to argue semantics about respecting vets like anyone looks at Sam Darnold and sees a winner instead of a Milquetoast panicker who was the worst QB in the league from a clean pocket and was outdueled by Daniel f*cking Jones. Give it up.

Save your gifs. Nobody on this team was going to lose any sleep over the possible perception of Sam Darnold being passed over. He brings new meaning to the word awful. Even Cam Newton with the arm of a 50 year old brought more life to the Panthers. Baker was the guy the moment the ink was dry.

Some of these people are just arguing to argue. Darnold was coddled last summer it's just a fact. We never should have guaranteed him that option. You let him play and if he goes on to be your franchise guy you work something out. But he was atrocious like he's always been. Very different situation from Baker who has actually been successful as a starter and took a pay cut to play here. Obviously Baker was and is our best option which may not be saying very much given what we have seen the last few years but this farce competition was a waste of everyone's time that's just the truth.

Yeah I'm sure the team loved seeing Sam throw a backbreaking pick six at home against the Patriots and then walking back to the bench like he couldn't wait to leave the stadium. Very kind of you to speak up for him.