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It's been a common part of past discussions about the failures of the franchise but this is obviously Jordan being cheap and honestly nobody should ever argue otherwise anymore. The guy is a cheapskate.

Atkinson. D'Antoni. Clifford. Results wise it's all the same bag really. Especially with a guy like Hayward pulling us down. This article sums it up pretty well regardless of how you might feel about the coaching hire. https://deadspin.com/hornets-buy-back-favorite-hoodie-from-goodwill-1849109277

You have to let the 24 hour reaction period fully play out so everyone can get it out of their system. Think of it as Billy Bob's character from Bad Santa. By Monday hopefully it will have subsided and everyone accepts.

Some fans have Stockholm Syndrome from all these years of suffering and it shows. That's the only explanation to still be carrying water for such awful quarterbacks.

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We know Clifford's record. If it made any difference he would not have been fired in the first place. Both Tepper and Jordan are bottom tier owners in their respective leagues until it has been proven otherwise. Moves like this do not help change that reputation. I sincerely hope this works out. And come on man after all the trolling that has taken place in the Panthers section which both you and I have taken part in you're going to be bothered now by posts like that? I'm not going anywhere and I don't want LaMelo to either. But decisions like this embolden fools with the worst takes about this team like SizzleBuzz.

Using this logic we could have just given James Borrego a "stern talk" if we were only going to settle for the status quo.

The issue with Clifford wasn't his ability as a coach it was his stubborn ways with the rotations and loyalty to vets. When was the last time a sports franchise made a move like this and it worked out successfully? I'll hope for the best and will still watch but there is legitimate concern with this move. To simply dismiss concern as whining is rich considering the same poster has made an entire huddle persona out of lambasting management of the local football team for sketchy decisions.

Oh you like seeing young talented players get minutes? Steve Clifford says hello

If you guys can talk yourselves into making sense of the trade I'm eager to hear how you feel about bringing back Steve Clifford after moving on from Borrego.

Fine with Mark Williams I'm happy to see what he and LaMelo can do together. But discarding lottery picks like you're at a flea market because you don't want too many young players is something great franchises can do. This is not the case with the Hornets.

Even if Duren bombs there were other players we passed up on too. The NBA gave us a lottery pick and we just proceeded to be clowns with it. I used to be mad about us never getting higher picks but when we do poo like this we don't even deserve it. Mitch looks like a clown for the trade and subsequent reasoning plain and simple.

So the new center we drafted can rot on the bench while we play Plumlee?

If cramming your nose up Dan Snyder's keester is the best thing you've got going tonight just damn. Sympathies.

I don't disagree regarding the trade. I also don't think Mitch is the wizard some people have made him out to be the last few years. I actually tried to temper some of those expectations months back when he was being unanimously praised right before the extension. He's already worn out his welcome with the Lakers and he's going to be a dinosaur in a couple more years. Bad timing to have a talent like LaMelo waiting to become a competive team. I just watched his press conference and Mitch's reasoning for not just using both picks is asinine at best considering we got peanuts. Like I said. Dinosaur

Pick 13 aside....... I've calmed down a smidge. I'm excited to see Mark Williams and LaMelo Ball together for however much longer he is here under this regime.

Wouldn't feel as bad if we got rid of Hayward at least. But Mitch talking like it was some 4D chess move when the league is laughing at us feels like the Bobcats all over again.

Mitch Hurney.

If what's been reported so far is all we got out of this I'm on record now. Fug Mitch.

So Mitch Kupchak seriously got fleeced like that and we're still stuck with Hayward? Ya'll still on his jock?

No coach on draft night to start and then you do your fans like this. Trash.

Should have never signed Hayward. Another Batum now we are shooting ourselves in the foot to get this bum out of here.