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Many people talked themselves into the McAdoo hire but it was dogshit from the start. Didn't Jay Gruden just flat out turn us down for an interview at the time? Oof.

Crazy thing about Double Trouble I think with Cam we only had a back eclipse 1k rushing yards once through those years and that was Stewart. Again the staff couldn't stop leaning on Cam too heavily and it is why his career was ultimately shortened.

Receiving wise he had weapons in 89 Olsen and Shockey and he had Gross (and a young R Kalil) but that was about it. As far as the build around him he was the lone man standing from the entire draft the year we selected him that's pretty damn ugly you should at least get one other starter out of a whole draft. For the most part the Panthers got by on the save me Cam formula we would have had a Lombardi trophy if they had not squandered so many chances to properly build a line around him in his prime. But it's the past now.

Cam is just a different cat altogether he made some serious magic with very mediocre ingredients. I remember that preseason game against the Bengals. He put the league on notice right then and there. Sigh....

I'm not buying this Ken Dorsey hype. If we needed someone in a pinch call up Flores.

Looks good for now but it's still very early. Hell look at what a couple more years did to Doug Pederson. Not a direct comparison mind you but just saying things change you never know the NFL always eventually adjusts. But we did have our chance to make a run at McDaniels. Instead we fell head over heels for a former short order cook. That's life.

Oh I agree and he looks like a fool for doing so and he's already walking that back now. Look we can blast and even eviscerate each other here but this is all just banter. I don't support anyone verbally abusing players in the NFL or the NBA beyond booing and letting them know when they are losing. There have been fans the last few years rightfully booted from stadiums and arenas for douchebaggery. But in general there is none of that from Panthers fans or many NFL fans across the country that I can tell aside from drunk idiots fighting but that's always happened.

Players adored Marty Hurney in 2010 too they gushed about him like he was part of the family. It took us years to flush that mentality out of the locker room and in the process our franchise quarterback was dragged through the mud for being a sore loser.

Does anyone remember when Dave Gettleman publicly fired a shot across the bow at his young QB to play better and start winning? These Panthers players who can't even handle booing or disgruntled fans are a joke.

Chicago isn’t exactly where young QB's go to thrive. The jury is still very much out on Horn. But looking at our current inadequacies across the board some of which are beginning with our defense that has been what this team has historically identifed through it is tough to justify an entire defensive draft in 2020 and Horn over other prospects at potential areas of need. Now it isn't even Horn vs the QB field it's everyone and he's playing catch up to Patrick Surtain II.

Man got an 18 million dollar contract from jump street while most players are lucky to get 10% of that starting out and if they get injured it's hey thanks adios there's the door. These guys should start taking the Marshawn Lynch approach and just pay fines for not talking to the media if they are going to say stupid poo.

You can't just say all players because some have much more at risk than others financially. The players on lower tier contracts and the guys hovering around league minumum because they were either drafted late or had to a earn a spot in camp after going undrafted are truly those taking all the risks and they have my respect. I've been very staunchly pro player and what some would call anti-owner. But the mentality being displayed by some players like the guys who already got those big first round pick millions or a big new contract looks bad for the sport and if they build a rift between themselves and most of the working class fans it's not going to end well. Good luck with all that.

Has 16 thousand huddle posts yet says others have no lives. Sorry to break the bad news to you but the huddle is not the only place speaking the truth about the state of this team. I guess all those in the media and other NFL fans who see the Panthers as a poorly run franchise that overpays for mediocre results are all haters too.

Idk but he doesn’t look like he's living his best life these days. The Bucs have won but it's been kinda ugly. What a time in the history of our division for us to be not only terrible but possibly the worst in the league. Right when things are ripe for the taking.

One minute I'm Chuck the next I'm Mr. Completely. You sound like Brad Pitt from Twelve Monkeys--unhinged.

Struck a nerve? Nice language considering you have often complained about how negative and hostile this place is.

I love JStew he's one of my all time favs but I do not expect him to say bad things about the staff he just isn't that type of guy and never has been to his credit. But it is obvious that in year 3 all of these issues can be pinpointed to coaching more or less. Especially after we have already seen one OC fall on his sword for the deficiencies of our offense which looked league worst for an entire half of football to start the season.

Your coach is 10-25 and 3-9 in the division. If you want to talk then start first with acknowledging your own mistakes because you have had a key role in the losing and you have had no problem whatsoever tweeting like you're the face of the franchise. Talk up your team and motivate not only the fans but yourself and your teammates in the process. Or just keep doing what you're doing and confirm to everyone watching just how soft and spoiled you and this team have become.

He's going to a big market with plenty of talent in place and an established QB.

Think about all the criticism Cam Newton endured across the sports spectrum from fans and the media. Did he ever cry about it and call people out including his own fans even though he had every justifiable right? No he let his play on the field speak. And he had actually won something of note. The more I think about this the more I think we need to purge the building of all things Jets minus Frankie Luvu. This in the midst of losing and fumbling the ball is just the very definition of soft. We can't beat the Browns. We can't beat the Giants. We would probably get stomped by the Jags like they just did the Colts. This is not a good team and nobody has the clout to be talking down to the folks who keep the lights on. Without fans and viewership this league is the XFL. Get this nonsense outta here.

I've supported Robbie through a lot of criticism but this is twice now he's talked out the side of his neck about fans when he's making a great deal of money and not backing up talk. He's in the wrong business if he's this worried about what fans think.

Even if he is he has no future here the front office could not have made that more clear. We have acquired three veteran quarterbacks in Teddy Sam and now Baker. If we strike out with Mayfield this staff is likely out and next year we will in all likelihood be looking heavily at drafting another one. We can't just keep throwing poo at the wall with these veteran leftovers hoping to find a diamond in the rough.