frankw

No use complaining about the level of compensation. We guaranteed this outcome eventually when we inked him to that deal when we didn't even have a starting quarterback on the roster yet and our OL was crap. He was worth more then than he will ever be now. Just such foolishness with how we've gone about building this team.

Meanwhile our locker room is going to poo and we've got one disgruntled WR gone and another in DJ Moore we have to find some way to placate. But yay the CMC stans get to rub one out thinking about how many total yards he's gonna get in garbage time in yet another wasted season.

Oh god we're back on the all purpose yards stuff again? We have the weirdest copes in this fanbase.

I guess someone with the team might want to clue Brian Burns in on this then.

We're just wading into the semantics waters at this point. I would caution you about making assumptions like that this early in the season. There are 11 more games and that's a long ride. And hey furthermore as far as assuming a team is a contender perhaps too early we kinda have some experience with that ourselves with that Kyle Allen win streak and starting 3-0 with Darnold.

The Shaq Thompson situation is somewhat manageable but whatever is going on with Brian Burns is another matter altogether after the Ram social media stunt. Maybe he's just trying to send the Panthers a message but it doesn't inspire any confidence in how things might go if we were to ink him to a huge contract extension.

The thinking about the draft part was in reference to some of the rest of the teams in the top ten of the list. Like us the Browns the Saints and maybe even the Packers unless Rodgers suddenly wakes up and he's 25 again. Unless you would like to dispute all of that too while you're at it.

We're 6 games into the season there's a long ways to go bud. Dallas has already been one and done recently in the playoffs via a very embarrassing meltdown their QB has been hurt the Vikings have yet to advance any further similarly the Titans were dispatched quickly last season and haven't looked quite as formidable as they did a few seasons ago. The Chargers could make a run but do you feel confident in that? That leaves the Giants so you think their ready to make the jump to Super Bowl contention this season? Cool.

You're just going to omit the part literally right before that asking how many Super Bowl contending teams have a running back top 5 in salary? If you just want to bash each other let's give it a go but surely we can come up with something better than this?

The Bengals are the only team in the top 10 of that list to get a Super Bowl appearance. I get you're a homer but you're digging deep here if you think any of those other teams you mentioned are legit Super Bowl contenders.

I agree with pretty much everything you've said here. The sad truth of the matter is much of our failures are so very self inflicted. And when you get down to it I legitimately think some fans here could have made better decisions than the brain trust we had with Matt Rhule. But at the center of it was Rhule's glaring apprehensiveness toward drafting his own QB. When we finally did we acted as if he were a burden when giving him practice reps and then we got him beaten up. Wherever we go from here please let it involve bringing in a coach with real experience at developing talent in the national football league (not college).

There was a time when I was willing to eviscerate Teddy Bridgewater but when you move past his lack of deep ball and penchant for taking the easy passes you have to acknowledge some things. We did at least move the ball up and down the field more often and that was with Matt Rhule Joe Brady and hey how about this known jag RB Mike Davis in McCaffrey's absence. That's the best our offense has looked in almost three years and we didn't have disgruntled receivers and we didn't have to forcefeed McCaffrey. We never should have traded Teddy if all we were going to go after was the likes of Sam Darnold. That's on Rhule and Fitterer who for some reason quite a few people want to give a free pass to.

Dude! Cam Newton led the team in rushing yards that season. How are you going to begin your post calling me out for overlooking things but cherry pick something like that? We have never won more than 5 games with McCaffrey as the primary weapon we can argue about circumstances but these are the facts.

It's a passing league and the coaches who are the best offensive minds can make the RB position plug and play and still get production. Do any of the SB contending teams have a running back top 5 in salary? The only one I see is Joe Mixon with the Bengals. All the other teams have fringe playoff hopes or are already thinking about who they might draft next year. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cap-hit/running-back/

Can we please stop fapping over the 1k/1k season? We won five games and McCaffrey led the league in touches. And every time I bring up McCaffrey's success rate running the ball in the RZ on 3rd and 4th down people scatter immediately. Yes he's got terrific hands he has clear dynamic ability as a WR but as a traditional RB which is what we need it is not going to get it done.

Listen brother I want a first too. But if a team has a chip like that to deal why wouldn’t they either use that to get a younger playmaker with less mileage and injury concerns or sign one of the FA backs in what is going to be one of the best free agent running back groups in years. We hold very little leverage. I would say just keep him for one or two more years but we are now on our third head coach and still the gameplan is "save me CMC here take all the touches". We don't score points with him we don't score points without him. We need a major shift in philosophy.

Good fug Mac Jones.

Oh please get down off the cross already guy. I don't see you stopping to take the time out to chastise any of these people making questionable remarks about a certain former Panthers hair or how he talks. Nothing even remotely offensive or derogatory was said about McCaffrey. And no we are not getting a first for him IMO a 3rd is what we are looking at and if we somehow got a 2nd that would be damn near a robbery.

Robbie got his contract extension and thought that meant he had arrived. He's a future HOFer only in his mind. Good luck with that Kyler.

The truth is the truth. In a quarter century I've never seen a cult of fans around any other running back on this team and we have had some good ones no doubt.

For the last time. We have many needs. We are facing another semi rebuild at minimum. We have one WR who can be really good when he wants but he is apparently disgruntled who knows if he stays. We have overpaid for guys like Ian Thomas and we have got to be one of the worst if not the worst at TE. You want to talk about helping a young QB. The go to for that is a solid TE for a safety valve and a solid versatile run game. Apparently Tepper is seeking an offensive minded coach for the new hire. That is a breath of fresh air. Surely that new coach will be able to come up with a better philosophy to build offensive gameplans around than "give one running back most of the touches the opposing defenses will never see that coming" that has been our bread and butter now with 3 different head coaches in 3 years.

If we are going to take off the homer shades Corral is a longshot at best to ever be a franchise QB here. I put the odds at 90% we go quarterback if we are sitting on a top 3 pick next April. We aren't getting through to one another on this discussion you clearly care more about your favorite running back than the team.

It's only a matter of time at this point. If we continue to lose and secure the top pick it's more likely this trade talk will pickup traction near next years draft. So you take your QB maybe draft a workhorse RB keep building the oline and let the chips fall where they may. This is not a difficult formula to grasp even bottom feeder teams are able to compete better than we are because they are not obsessing over their running back. They know it's a QB league. This guy that keeps quoting me is either trolling me or demented fr.