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First thing he talks about is Bryce Young on his tippy toes getting ready to throw an ugly pick. He's too small to be a franchise QB. Can we stop pretending this isn't a major reason he isn't panning out?

"Starting guards Robert Hunt (shoulder) and Damien Lewis (groin) were listed as limited, along with backup tackle Yosh Nijman (tibia)." Already banged up along the offensive line. As bad as things were Sunday it could get worse.

We can't know how long this will be allowed to continue. Any observer can say yeah keep starting Bryce Young ride out the season. But there's a big picture involved and a full roster of players whose careers are hanging in the balance. Not everyone wants to continue on with a sinking ship. You have to give your locker room and your fans some light at the end of the tunnel. The investment made in BY is already a sunk cost. Any decisions made now should always be about the good of the team.

There were highs and lows. The highs gave me hope. The lows (Bengals game Steelers game last Bucs game) made me realize ultimately he was a rehash of Ron Rivera. There are times that can work. But the league has changed. More than anything I think we as fans when thinking the grass is greener have to consider just how bad this whole situation is for any coach. All roads go back to Tepper.

I think it's important in these times to maintain perspective and not try to compare suckage too much. Just because we sucked less doesn't mean we were better off. Darnold was not the answer. Sooner or later the Vikings will learn this too. Is he currently better than Bryce Young? Well yeah who isn't at this point? As far as Wilks goes he's a good man with ties to our community whom I respect. But he's been fired how many times now? And this is the same man whose team was curb stomped by the Bengals with Baker Mayfield whom now looks like a franchise QB down in Tampa. Other than the Detroit game that was all running game what did we accomplish under him? In order to turn this franchise around we have to use different pieces from the past as lessons in order to learn and adapt going forward. There isn't any one piece that is going to solve our dilemma.

Oh he is incredibly thin skinned make no mistake he's seething right now. This is the same man that just earlier this year walked into a local Charlotte restaurant not once but twice to inquire with them about a sign out front.

Can't help but notice that not one time in this article following one of the worst losses in franchise history was the word "accountability" mentioned. And we wonder why this is the product on the field?

I gotta be honest. Bryce Young's overall demeanor and vibe has me longing for even Sam Darnold at this point. It's that bad. But really though. All we had to do was stay put and draft Levis. He has way more upside than Darnold and we still would have kept Moore. This all goes back to Tepper needing to be the center of attention. Before the trade up most of us thought it would never happen but in the event it did I would estimate 90% of the people entertaining the notion wanted us to select Stroud. I cannot understate the fact that some people here on the huddle could have made better personnel decisions than the people in our organization at the time.

Netflix. In his defense though they do have some damn good content. Just a few recent ones I've watched are Rebel Ridge and Terminator Zero. Highly recommend.

I think he could be a good pro QB if he puts in the work but he's going to have to humble himself now because if he waits until he gets to the NFL for the league to humble him it will get very ugly.

Oh stop with the constant scapegoating. Are things not looking good for Canales too? No they aren't he disappointed us too. But there were opportunities out there on the field. We have invested heavily in the offense around Bryce Young. Whom btw initially we were told his processing and improvisation abilities were so damn good he was like Mahomes so we wouldn't need to surround him with elite talent. Bryce Young is a grown man. He is in his second season. If he cannot pick up himself and his teammates through adversity after all we've invested in him then he is cooked.

I remember how condescending you've been over the last year to anyone that had doubts about him as a franchise QB. Here you are still making excuses. At this point Bryce "balling out" anywhere is a sheer fantasy. His best game to date was followed up by a blowout loss to a team missing their starting QB. The only people that believe this are his parents and his agent.

Herbert recently had 144 yards on 26 attempts and they still blew out their opponent. Harbaugh will send a message with this one and they won't have to do much sadly.

If we keep starting Bryce Young even free tickets won't be the slighest bit appealing.

That's not what I said when I quoted you. Fair market value doesn't exist anymore unless you're talking a bonafide franchise QB. Multiple teams the last few years have traded away "stars" at other positions and gotten what most would consider "mid" at best in the returns department. Nothing with the McCaffrey situation properly coincided with building around a young QB. We signed him to that huge deal and then Teddy Bridgewater of all guys too instead of drafting a QB and then realized our OL was asswater like it was some big shock lol. Duh it was always poo we lost a fuging Super Bowl over it among other reasons! We built ass backwards. We've been doing that all along. DJ Moore is the bigger grievance as of now as far as I'm concerned. Traded away a damn good young WR on an affordable deal compared to his peers for the worst starting QB in the NFL. Never gonna live that down.

Too early to say. I can't put anything past ownership at this point.

Doesn't make sense to be of the opinion he's a quitter but claim that you still didn't want to trade him. Panthers fans need to stop looking in the rearview regardless. All these lame ass excuses we get on why this team can't be competitive are beyond stale. Every other team in our division is competing and are any of them loaded with talent across the board or are they just ran across the board better overall? Other teams lose talent all the time not all of them become the worst team in all of professional sports. The Tepper's are why we're in this mess. Simple and plain.

Of course but it isn't just Reich and Canales. We're at least half a dozen different coaches in from last years staff that have been labeled the absolute worst because they couldn't make Bryce Young a starting QB. Could they be? Definitely. Is it likely and a given at this point? Debatable. Furthermore we simply have not seen Reich or Canales in the regular season with any other QB to work with yet other than the game last year against the Seahawks. Do you remember how a lot of people downplayed the offense looking much better with Dalton on the road against the Seahawks? Who can say how different much of the pieces within last years offense would have looked with a larger sample size of Dalton? We have seen Bryce Young look like the worst starting QB in the entire NFL with two different coaching staffs now. That's all I know for absolute sure. It seems likely he will get another game or two before a change is made. But at this point we have to see this group with someone else that isn't a direct detriment to the team around them in order to assess everything else including scheme playcalling and overall coaching.

Brother why do you say stuff like this like you haven't talked mad poo about that man and called him soft just three months ago lmao.

Jim Harbaugh has to be loving this matchup. His offense just ran for 176 yards against the Raiders. What do they do to this run D minus Derrick Brown? Smells like another blowout.

Looking at some of his other videos it's clear he's just a homer. Nothing wrong with that if that's how he deals with this depressing franchise. But I wouldn't give those delusions any views.

Drafting a unicorn at QB changed everything. Ron had his moments and overall I liked the man and respected him aside from the moments of frustration with his gameday management at times. And his penchant for being comically loyal to his vet players. Although ultimately all of it boiled down to that fateful Super Bowl. Cam let us down. And Ron Rivera with his usual stubbornness damn sure did.

Ron Rivera without Cam Newton would have been fired by his third season. He only became Riverboat because Cam kept prodding him.

Their defensive coordinator had been taking a lot of heat at that time for his playcalling and their secondary was trash. This perfomance was followed by an abomination of a game against the Jaguars minus Trevor Lawrence.

Well beggars can't be choosers. I'll take what I can get. We spent 150 million dollars in free agency fixing the middle of our oline and traded up for our first two picks to address the offense to the direct detriment of our pass rush. It's time for whomever the QB is to step tf up.