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Probably will win today now that the pressure is off

I'm beginning to think Tepper is going to go with what he deems to be the safest route in his mind after being embarrassed by Matt Rhule.

Oh it's cookinbrak again. I almost didn't see you there. Aren't you the one who was mentioning Darnold in the same breath as Steve Young after we traded for him and then you spent weeks attacking anyone who wanted us to draft a QB? Yeah I'm not surprised you're irate when faced with the truth.

Welp now we have to get him.

Yep covers all the bases we already know. Sam has arm talent through the roof has the ability to make just about every throw up and down the field when his footwork is crisp and can rocket throws with ease. One of the biggest difference makers is he has been forcing less egregious and dangerous throws. He finally broke that streak against Tampa Bay though. The guy making the video even says the quiet part out loud you guys don't want to address though "it's hard to ignore where most of his production is coming from" ie Foreman and the run game and allowing the play action to open up. When the run game is not firing on all cylinders Darnold cannot win you the game with all that aforementioned arm talent. That's the rub buddy.

I've given credit to Sam for his ability as a scrambler in and out of the pocket. He has ideal size to do this from time to time but he does not have the durability to do that on a regular basis I've gone over that with you before. And truth be told the reason he was running the ball against ATL and got injured was because our offensive staff was afraid of him throwing the ball. Or have you already forgotten that? We are still doing the same even now with McAdoo.

Yeah that's one odd thing about the Panthers there was a portion of the fanbase who put a running back over a lot of other players and the good of the team. It's not really a dynamic that can be explained and I can't say I’ve ever seen another fanbase have fans who were so infatuated with an RB. All I can guess is they had their own selfish motives. But the trade worked out for both parties so that's all that matters.

He was talking about Christian McCaffrey who plays for the 49ers now. Some folks still haven't moved on.

Even in the Lions game Goff looked like the better passer overall. Sam threw 22 passes and accounted for 7 points through the air. Here's a harsh fact for these Darnold truthers. With a better QB we very well could have dropped a 50 burger on Detroit.

He's gone move on. It's a passing league you are not going to get 300 rushing yards out of your backfield on a consistent basis. Your starting QB is going to have to go out there and win with his arm more often than not to close games.

Just a heads up. You and another Sam Darnold fan are the only ones in this thread to have used the word trash in reference to him. I've been clear in my thoughts summarizing his current status and abilities. He can start some games for you and look okay to good or pretty good in spots but it does not last and you do not want to have to depend on him to win the game. That showed quite clearly against the Steelers and the Bucs. We lost to Mitch Trubisky and a 45 year old Tom Brady in two games where we needed those wins for a playoff push. Was all of it Sam's fault? No. Did he make some plays to help? Yes. Did he make enough plays? No. Did he contribute turnovers that hurt our chances? Yes. Can we do better at the position in the offseason? Yes. For all the positives his fans will list as reasons why he should get a chance to be the starter next year the one you guys don't want to cover is he cannot win games when the chips are down or when he hasn't had a lead all game thanks to an historic run game. He has not had a game winning drive in over 3 years now. Now if you want to immerse yourself in a fantasy where Darnold is a starting QB moving forward that is your right. But as I've said the proof is in the pudding.

It's called standards dude. Even the only MVP in Panthers franchise history got called out for losing and still to this day can't live down losing a Super Bowl. Just because others do not share in your delusions does not make them haters. Go start a Sam Darnold superfan community if you hate it here so bad

Then let's raise the bar and keep looking for our next QB.

Jake wasn't even that special or very good and there still isn't a comparison to be had between him and Darnold. I'm just keeping it real.

He threw for 29 touchdowns in 2004 without Smitty. You're grasping.

Darnold wishes he was Delhomme-esque. He hasn't had a game winning drive since December 2019.

Just give him a five year contract and let him compete because he's such a nice guy and he tries so hard. This is a family affair. Do any of ya'll that don't keep Sam Darnold's codpiece on your nightstand remember just four years ago when turning the ball over and losing football games was a deal breaker for this fanbase?

LaMelo looks pretty damn good tonight 5 threes already. Let the haters rot.

I like Sam but I've seen all I need to and we've already done the Teddy Bridgewater experiment before him. Wish him well and good luck with his next opportunity and keep looking. Let the folks who are in love with the bar being mediocre follow him to his next destination

I don't think he's coming back to the NFL but if he does he wants full control that's probably why the Vikings balked last year.

Okay the AFCS is neck and neck lol. I'm kinda iffy on the OC turned head coach now after other failures but I still think we need to turn over every stone looking in that direction. I honestly lean going with a candidate with head coaching experience built in and I would not doubt if that's the route Tepper goes this time after being burned so badly with a college hire. We'll see. At this point I'll take take any QB's not named Darnold or Walker. Just begin anew.

I hear ya'll. But if we hadn't once again won those games that ultimately didn't matter we wouldn't need to try and trade up anyway. We ended up getting slapped down by 45 year old Brady in probably the worst division in the league when we could have had a top 3 pick minimum. Same old Panthers.