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Shaq is a small piece on the Bills defense. Here he would have had significantly more responsibility which would have opened more opportunities for him to be exposed in the open field. You guys are hopped up on copium suggesting anything else.

I wish that actually contributed to anything meaningful for this franchise. Between The Leadership Council and Dave Canales confirming the bye week was a hindrance it's enough for complete apathy to set in for any fan. Too many highly paid players on this team for the lowly Saints with nothing to play for to look more motivated than our guys with the division and a playoff spot on the line for the first time in 8 years.

Far more concerning than anything is Jaycee Horn at this point. Between him and Bryce and the resources we have tied up in both of them the inability to perform at a high level against a rebuilding Saints team is just........

I like Shaq but I'm not going to delude myself into believing he wouldn't be out there whiffing on tackles too. Is he an upgrade over Rozeboom? Yeah but at 31 he was never going to save this linebacker room.

Very unsurprising news unfortunately. This is why I largely go out of my way not to watch any non Panthers games. This league despises the Panthers. Anyways. This team and specifically this offense is going nowhere until we get a QB who A) doesn't throw an unacceptable number of poorly placed balls and B) doesn't need everything from top to bottom to go perfectly in order to succeed at looking like a marginal top 20 QB.

This news is a GIANT glowing neon warning sign for the Panthers front office. Unfortunately I have legitimate and justified doubts they will heed said warning. Everything they have done to this point has been about doubling tripling and quadrupling down.

If that is ultimately the course of action the decision makers go with they will be doing so at their own peril. I'll just sit back and wait for it to end the same way it has the last 3 years.

Let's save each other the word salads and just see if we can agree on this. Bryce will be here in 2026 regardless. But outside of him we need a new QB room in 2026. We need a capable younger veteran and we need another young QB. We need new life and actual competition for the most consequential position on the field. If that does not happen we will assuredly get more of the same and the fans will begin another round of blasting each other instead of correctly identifying what is truly holding us back. Our decision makers. Let's see what they end up doing. All we can do is wait.

Let's be real. Signing Matt Kalil who was at the time inconsistent at best was always an extremely risky move and largely initiated by the fact he was related to one of our most prominent players Ryan Kalil. Memories get fuzzy the longer time passes I guess. Go watch some old Panthers games with Ted Ginn nearly losing us games. Then watch Cam Newton keep going back to him again and again and again. Then read all the Xavier Legette criticism while making excuses for Bryce being swept by rookie 2nd round pick Tyler Shough. Throwing TMac under the bus is just further proof how deranged the Bryce Young defense force has become. Bryce Young can barely compete in this gutter iteration of the NFC South. Let's see him take this WR core to the playoffs in an NFC South with Drew Brees and Matt Ryan

You act like we gave Cam Newton the highest paid OL in the league and back to back first round WR's including one #8 overall for the first time in franchise history. Give Bryce Young Byron Bell on his left and Nate Chandler on his right and Ted Ginn out there dropping passes that hit both his hands multiple times in the same drive. And for good measure give him Corey Brown instead of Jalen Coker. Just win baby.

Man I get being up and down because the team is a rollercoaster and when the pressure is on they fold like a lawn chair but fưck this hit dog mentality. We better put up a fight against the Bucs.

If you think Icky in his prime is bad let's give Bryce Young prime Byron Bell and tell him to win with that. Until then. The whining needs to stop.

What does a 5th round TE afterthought nobody would bat an eye over if we released him have to do with the face of the franchise and the third highest paid player on the roster? You are being ridiculous. Yet you wonder why your threads are getting deleted. Nobody wants the old you Mr. Scot. Take a hint. Turn the page.

You know full well those are dubious comparisons at best because none of the QB's you mentioned are also the smallest QB in the league. Bryce Young is like it or not working from a disadvantage in just about every facet on an NFL field and that is why we need things to go perfect for him in order for him to have a productive day let alone for him to look like a top 10 QB. Some people just don't want to face the truth. Well you can only run from it for so long. Good luck with that.

Most of the comments I've seen have been very scathingly critical of Canales in game management and decisions. Evero and multiple key defenders have gotten a ton of smoke too. As far as Bryce goes I think it depends on the viewer. Some people were all about giving him credit for game winning drives even when he basically did little or nothing but still received the credit. Now the same people want to cry foul when Bryce is expected to as a third year QB and a first overall pick not lose to a rookie 2nd round pick 8 games into his career. Well I'm sorry it just doesn't work that way. He's the face of the franchise. He's the third highest paid player on the team this year. The team goes as the QB goes. Aside from the late sack he was kept relatively clean throughout the bulk of the game even with the injuries we've had along the OL. Shough on the other hand was harassed throughout the game and he still completed passes into tight windows throughout the game. Bryce on the other hand while he is receiving a positive grade for his scrambling saw fit to bail on the pocket throughout the game. Some of those were justified others were not and resulted in missed opportunities. Then there is the elephant in the room that even Dave Canales himself even uttered the quiet part out loud about. That is the fact that in short yardage situations we cannot under any circumstances use our #1 pick on a QB sneak. Which let's just keep it 100 here. If this were any other team everyone here including the loudest Bryce defenders would be laughing their asses off. All of this encompasses a singular conclusion that no matter how much people may like Bryce Young the person ultimately he does not appear to be a QB that we can compete for and win in the playoffs with. It isn't hating or any other ridiculous label to acknowledge this reality. It's just life.

The Panthers never should have been in position for this to matter. When we went up 17-10 the Saints actually fumbled on their next drive and a good team actually trying to win their division and lock up a playoff spot would have recovered that fumble and gone on to make the score 24-10. This was a sloppy game from a team known for just that in situations where the pressure is on. And Dave Canales himself basically said the bye week was a factor and that to me is as good of an indicator we should need that we need to prioritize any and all possible head coaching candidate upgrades in the offseason.

Bryce was sacked one time and that didn't happen until what late in the 4th quarter? Shough was throwing into tight windows under duress all through the first half my man. The proof is in the pudding.

He. Has. The. Highest. Paid. OL. In. The. Entire. League. Nobody is absolving Icky for getting penalized. But Icky is not the face of the franchise. Icky is not currently the third highest paid player on the team. Icky did not get outplayed by Tyler Shough who was sacked 5 times and consistently harassed by our DL. We aren't going to agree. It's fine. Good day sir!

Dumping on Icky to cover for our #1 pick being outplayed by a rookie is such embarrassing foolishness.

Wilks is a good man but he is not a very good coach. It happens. Time to move on from this once and for all.

The fat lady has sung. Can't get swept by the Saints and a rookie QB and still consider yourself a contender of any kind.

Bryce was sacked once. Shough was sacked 5 times. We beat him up all throughout the first half. His best RB was out. He still had the better performance. Some of you have standards for everyone but Bryce Young and it's just sad.

When Bryce looks good we have weapons. When Bryce gets outplayed by a rookie 8 games into his career suddenly we have nobody. I love this place.

Well at least the Hornets won. 25 points for Miller 29 points for Knueppel.

It's for the best this team doesn't get a playoff spot anyways. Being swept by the Saints indicates we would just suffer another embarrassment.