frankw

Oh yeah I'm not downplaying Marvin Harrison Jr at all he's going to be a stud. I've seen Young's film and there are things to like but I think this is a situation where we figuratively and literally need to go big or go home just as you say. Glad we agree on that detail 🫡

In fairness I'm only responding to posts that completely negate Young's one major flaw heading into the league while taking shots at Stroud for having quality receivers and ignoring the fact it's a mutual relationship and without his accuracy those receivers might not look so all world. When we first traded up to the top pick I started looking at film for all the QB's with an open mind. Now mostly everyone have taken to their respective corners. You know sometimes in this debate where we keep yammering on about extending plays and football IQ you would occasionally think this isn't a league where footwork accuracy and ball placement are so important in a time where offenses are so pass happy. There's more than one way to win a Super Bowl but for me I keep coming back to the fact we haven't seen a very gifted passer in some time. Stroud doesn't have the strongest arm but he can put the ball wherever he wants. I still lean toward that and let the staff develop him if our goal is to win a championship. If we have the cajones to pass on that I would rather say fug it and risk it all developing Anthony Richardson.

We are just offering our opinions to pass the time. In my mind excelling at scrambling in college and the NFL are different animals. Yes there are traits both he and Stroud have that directly translate but that's the one I'm less impressed with overall because due to the fact he would he the smallest starting QB in the NFL it will not be a feature of his game if the braintrust tab him for the top pick. If they value their job security they will have him keeping that to a minimum and keep him relatively clean. We should and will also seek to shore up the oline even more to compensate. Now would NOT be the time to go back to our past approach of thinking the OL is further along than it actually is. I expect moves to solidify our OL depth to be made if he's the pick.

I don't think the issue is whether or not it translates the issue is there's pretty much 0 percent chance of us seeing that aspect of his game much with our offensive staff. If he's the guy they are not going to risk their number 1 pick. Reich and our OC will be focused on getting the ball out quick and limiting the possibility of Young getting hit repeatedly.

I wouldn't be angry about it. But I'd prefer another WR at 39. Of all our current receivers can we say any of them give you real confidence they will be available 17 games? Thielen is 33 TMJ has dealt with injuries recently ditto Shenault and Shi Smith. That leaves Chark who is possibly walking around on borderline glass ankles.

Anthony Richardson it is.

Russ is not a realistic comparison. One he was always a threat with his legs. Two he had a horseshoe up his ass for a number of years. Three he won one Super Bowl where the defense and Marshawn did a ton of heavy lifting and where Peyton Manning put on the worst passing performance in a SB I've ever seen. If anything his decline the last several years should scare anyone away from drafting a QB even shorter than him at #1 overall.

Love Cam but it's time to end the charade. You are a legend and IMO belong in the hall of fame. But the ride is over.

If we're excluding drafting a QB at 1 based on how they react to being pressured we probably wouldn't have even traded up in the first place. And to Young's under pressure numbers how many of those plays did he drop back several steps and dance around the pocket for 5 seconds plus? That's not happening in the NFL.

Don't worry. The refs will protect him from those big mean scary dlinemen.

Sounds like JT loves him some Bryce Young. Someone please inform him just as Stroud will not be bringing MH JR with him to the NFL Young will not be bringing Nick Saban and going up against prestigious opponents such as Utah State ULM Vanderbilt Mississippi State Austin Peay and Kansas State.

For the folks who want less silver

You can say you don't care and size doesn't matter but the 17 game season disagrees with you. Wasn't every QB on our roster banged up in one way or another at some point last season? Newsflash. You dickriding this man isn't going to stop defenders from ruining his life. I imagine defensive coordinators in particular will be eager to put this all to the test. If they targeted Cam you think they'll be afraid to go after the smallest starting QB in the league?

Alright you're crossing the line now.

Stroud's accuracy and overall body of work within the pocket on top of his ideal size still holds the edge to me. I'd accept either BY or AR but to me both are big risks. It's fine to think Young will go on to become one of the GOAT's and the ultimate outlier for his size over the last half century but we have to address the odds. He's as much of a risk as Richardson for different reasons.

98% of the quarterbacks voted MVP over the last 50 years were 6'2 and up. Russell Wilson isn't a good enough reason to pass on Stroud sorry.

Damn they shut that down quick.

The classic home look with silver pants is the best in the league IDGAF what anyone says.

Welp the silver haters have to wait awhile longer.

You know the refs aren't going to step in and stop a huge dlineman from landing on him right? Whomever we pick is going to get hit. Possibly more than average depending on the health and depth of our OL. That's another layer btw. Some folks seem to think our OL is set and already one of the best. That's not the case.