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Demonization is an absurd term to apply in this discussion in relation to Bryce Young. Demonization would be how fans still outwardly rooted against Cam Newton even after he looked like a generational talent earned rookie of the year honors and MVP. This is not that. At all. All that is happening currently are people applying expectations of a first overall pick. Even if we lose even if we aren't good show us flashes of what a #1 pick is supposed to do. Elevate YOUR team. And we are not seeing that.

Oof that picture. Cannot fathom anyone in the decision making process thought this was going to be a rousing success.

Our media team is so out of touch it is unconscionable.

At this point if Canales goes so be it. The issue is you seem to adopting the same mentality as others which is basically parroting the exact same takes from two years ago with Reich blaming everything solely on him while trying to direct attention from the fact the starting QB is extremely limited. You cannot fire two entire coaching staffs and still act as if the QB is only one small part of the problem. He is at the center of all the problems. And the problem with firing yet another coach to shield Bryce Young is nobody is going to want to take this job. It's already undesirable with the Tepper's. But to take a job under the guise of fixing a literal 2X coach killer is a nonstarter. The only possible coach you might get in here is some horrible coordinator that will just be another crony sycophant to the Tepper's. The only path forward is to rip the bandaid off bench Young and just put one foot in front of the other and treat this as an audition year for everyone.

The cringe is astounding. https://www.instagram.com/p/DPJlhebjepE/?img_index=1

There are things we know and things we don't know. Right now our starting QB is undoubtedly making things significantly easier for opposing coaches and defenses to gameplan for. That cannot be downplayed. We need to evaluate this staff and roster with a QB who can complete consistent passes downfield and then go from there and see what further moving parts need to be replaced in the offseason.

The NFL is a business. There's zero chance the Panthers enter next summer without legitimate competition in the QB room this go around.

Yesterday was so bad Icege is still malfunctioning. I suppose we won't be getting an all-22 breakdown of the best of Bryce Young. What a shame.

Nobody is saying this is a good franchise. Nobody is saying Canales is a good coach. Nobody is saying Dan Morgan is a good GM. Nobody is saying the Tepper's are good owners. All of that doesn't change the fact that we are starting a significantly physically limited QB who is hindering and failing the moving parts around him as much as they are him. This isn't about winning. Nobody that isn't a top to bottom homer expected a winning season this year. I certainly didn't. But we can compete better than this even with all the other things going on. Everything is falling apart because the team goes as the QB goes and it has always been that way and it always will be. No amount of all caps or exclamation marks will change that sir.

This is verbatim the things we said about Reich. This is staff #2 for Bryce Young. The best this passing offense has looked since 2023 was with Dalton in Seattle under Reich and in 2024 with Dalton in Las Vegas under Canales. That tells you all you need to know.

He can play like that as a #1 pick with $39 million guaranteed but Xavier Legette is in the dog house. This locker room isn't going to last the season with him keeping the starting job.

These are the sources best I can find.

I mean anybody can go buy a jersey of a franchise that has won 4 Super Bowls. I guess if that floats your boat do your thing. Me I'd just quit watching football altogether.

Yeah she shouldn't be remotely involved with any of that whatsoever. The only path forward would be for the Tepper's to hire an outside consultant to right this ship and fire and hire who they see fit and let those people run the team. But they'll never do it because they are megalomaniacs.

I mean at this point focusing on the run game when our pass offense is non existent is like worrying about a leaky roof when the foundation of your house is sinking. You pass to setup the run. Nobody. And I mean nobody is worried about our pass offense. We can try whatever the hell we want with the RB's it won't amount to a hill of beans until the QB can make all the throws and keep the defense honest.

Well you also need a QB to sell it and for the opposing defense to believe he can beat them with his arm but we don't have that.

I can't stand the Patriots but he sounds like a good guy and he grew up a big fan of the joy Cam brought to the game. Respect.

I saw some people talking down on TMac in the gameday thread. For some there is literally no one they would not throw in front of a speeding bus to run cover for #9.

He doesn't care either way. The Tepper's thumb their nose at fans. Remember this is the same man who went into a restaurant and embarrassed himself over a sign they had out front.

There is no identity. He is all image and hollow words no substance. He takes no ownership of his team on gamedays no matter how many empty platitudes he speaks otherwise in front of the media. Didn't we actually initially have Vrabel scheduled for an interview?

Here we go again. Looks like we've got a new member to the "I don't believe my own eyes I choose to believe in fairy tales and blame everyone but Bryce Young" club.

Mark Schlereth would have absolutely eviscerated Cam Newton if he played like Bryce has in the most meaningful moments of games throughout the season so far.

I agree. In the end Stroud could reach the potential he flashed in his rookie season or he could just end up being mid. Who knows who cares at this point. The folks dunking on him are just fools carrying the water of the Tepper's no matter how loud they get or how many posts they poo. We should have never traded up to begin with. The cost was too great. We should have built the roster patiently and intelligently. And the source of these woes is 100% without question whatsoever our ownership.