frankw

Don't go to bed angry buddy. You got any soothing nature sounds? Sleep on it and get back to me.

You're mad and flailing. You crapped on DJ Moore every chance you got for not being a number one receiver but would turn around stick up for Robbie Anderson. Just comically bad takes.

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There's no lie. You did it multiple times and the giveaway was you going after Sean Paytons Vicodin unprompted for calling out Tepper apologists. Why would you be so triggered by him saying that when you weren't even remotely mentioned? Guilty conscience.

You are absolutely livid about being called out for sticking up for David Tepper. I won't be kind anymore. You stuck your neck out for that man. You got your nose rubbed in it. Deal with it like a man.

College highlights don't matter now. This is like if Cleveland Browns fans were posting highlights of Johnny Manziel in college when things weren't looking good early on.

Still salty I see. He cannot to this point throw deep in the NFL. We haven't seen it. The video doesn't exist. Alabama highlights mean nothing to anyone. Hopefully we get a highlight or two of this for the first time at home against the Texans and the #2 pick in this years draft.

I would heavily consider that offer for Burns but I would hold him his value will be just as high in the offseason and more teams will be sniffing around. I wouldn't give up more than a single 5th or 6th for Jeudy. He's lazy and can't be bothered to give a damn about the team that drafted him. Why do we want him or think he will change his ways here of all places again?

I anxiously await the video footage in a Panthers uniform.

There's been some good and a lot of really bad. Definitely having a sophomore slump. He's a good kid though. We'll see how he bounces back.

I agree with most of your points you touched on about billionaires and the elite class. I don't wade into it much because it's a futile effort the system is built to be exploited and manipulated by those in power in this structure and that won't change in our lifetimes. Back to football. The losing is having a fog effect on all of us I'd say that's why every thread eventually becomes tense and people let out their frustrations. It's perfectly fine I'd rather people do that here than other places or in other ways. It's good to vent. We've been through the ringer. With Tepper I fear his impulsiveness could make this volatile situation even worse if that's somehow possible. Wherever he goes from here in regards to Reich's future or the next coach he has to remove himself from the equation some. Nothing will get better without that no matter who we hire next. We've argued for years over what ultimately amounted to inane issues this is just another one. We can't control any of it regardless. I respect your passion for your team it's good that you're fired up. We lost a ton of bandwagoners through the last 4 years or so. Loyal fans who have stuck through it all deserve better than this. We'll see if there's a light at the end of the tunnel anytime soon. Maybe not.

https://torontosun.com/2012/11/03/why-cam-newton-is-struggling-qa-with-greg-cosell Here's a bit of an insight into his thoughts on Newton early in his career. Cosell was up and down on Cam but unless you can cite the article or video in question I can't help with that. Newton's footwork is what kept him from consistently reaching that level he did in 2015. I'll concede that every single time. It's a shame but it happens. He definitely lacked touch on certain throws too. He relied on his physicality probably to a fault. But when he was on what a sight to behold. All we have now are highlights. Oh absolutely he was useless at screens. But when he first entered the league things hadn't yet changed to what we see now with a larger emphasis on short passes. That just wasn't his game at Auburn and he was never good at it in the NFL. It just is what it is.

Sir. You sought out OP to get on his case when he suggested there have been Tepper apologists. And when asked about your own history in defense of Mr. Tepper you've proceeded to have a meltdown. Why don't we just agree that the stakes have changed and Tepper has worn out his free passes that some people extended to him? He did indeed have some apologists. There was even one poster here who basically dedicated his entire account to posting about him. Remember the Appaloosa Model? We're a long way from that.

Certainly not a win Hey if you're looking for silver linings say no more do your thing.

I got through what I could of this word salad. Parts of it you are somewhat coherent. The rest? Ehhhh. You are honestly just riffing off classic talking points about Cam that he proved untrue years ago. Which is ironic considering you have the nerve to talk about an agenda. Yours is plain to see. But I think the crux of your argument hinges on some level of mythical hype you've conjured up about Bryce Young in your head. There are things about him we just don't know yet until he shows it. What he does well bodes positively for his football IQ going forward. What he doesn't do well bodes troublesome concerns around his phsyical traits that are average. But he has time to grow in those aspects. I do not think he is going to change all that much over the next few years as far as his build though. The plus side is so far he's been a tough bastard behind a subpar OL and against some tough pass rushing opponents. That's commendable. But the rest of the season is going to be about what Bryce Young can show as a passer. All the other moving parts we can discuss as much as we like but there has to be progress in the mid range to deep passing categories. You can throw tantrums about this in all caps if it makes you feel better but truly almost everyone here wants him and the team to succeed. We don't have to subscribe to your borderline manifestoesque ramblings to be Carolina Panthers fans. We're here.

https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2023-nfl-defense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats Seahawks pass defense is currently ranked 28th. The Dolphins are 19th. The Vikings and Lions are ranked 17th and 18th. The Texans are sitting at 24th. They also have the 28th ranked 3rd down defense. They are pretty bad. If Bryce is going to show out it should be at home next game. And he's got a new playcaller.

Do tell.

Hate is a strong word. I gave him a chance but he clearly wasn't the guy after several starts. I vocally wanted to move on and I make no apologies for it. That being said he did have some moments where he impressed. But what it boiled down to was he was like Kirk Cousins in that playoff game opting for a pass behind the line of scrimmage instead of going for broke. Except somehow worse. You can't win with that. Personality wise Teddy was kind of awkward at times. But he was totally right about Rhule and his staff and that vindicated him to a degree. As much as I don't like it. There are some things about Teddy that line up with Bryce for the moment. But it's too early to say. We have to let the season play out.

"Anti-Bryce" is basically "anything I don't want to read that challenges my thoughts". Some of this reminds me of when we were having the first real doubts about Matt Rhule and people who didn't want to hear about it kept labeling any criticism as "Anti-Rhule".

If that's all it is we will certainly know by the conclusion of the season. For the sake of everyone's sanity and overall feelings hopefully Brown is the one to unlock it. If however things do not work out that way though I expect this place will not be at all pleasant for some people.

Being that you're a twitter (X) regular it's strange you think cleansing this place is going to lead to all problems being solved. If anything you should be used to this and fully understand this is the way the internet is and will remain as long as humans are involved.

This works both ways and there have been plenty of instances of those on that other side accusing people of simply being haters or that they should go root for this team or that team because they haven't fully bought in to the required group think that's being endorsed at that time. This thread would be a bridge between all that and about positive Panthers news. If people don't want to deal with that they will have every other thread to discuss controversial subjects as much as they would like.

I concur completely. This is one area where our GM inexcusably dropped the ball. Interior pressure has been an ongoing problem through multiple QB's now. We'll see how it shakes out.

If it's just a single place to drop off some positive thoughts that's probably helpful for people to lift their spirits as a break. There are other threads for banter that goes off for pages about one particular issue or other derailed thoughts. It's worth a try if it will help end every other thread from turning into the same positive vs negative free for all.

In the first quarter absolutely he looked like a competent starting QB and showed off some nice passes. He has the necessary zip within 20 yards. That's what we've been waiting to see. But it's beyond that mark where these discussions turn sour because nobody likes talking about it. There are some throws still that just aren't his forte. Maybe it will come with time maybe it's a couple of combined factors within our not adequate offense. The second half concerns me and it's tough to spend a bye week with that as our final images. But we have a new playcaller and a home game. There's a lot at stake in this Texans game beyond the head to head between the #1 and #2 pick. I'd like to see sustained drives and a few 30+ yard completions at minimum. Hopefully the oline is up to the task.