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I figured someone would mention Burrow as if he isn’t injured and having the worst season of his career. This thread has veered back into the usual coping mechanisms. All of our questions can and should be answered in our next game. At home. New playcaller. #1 pick against the #2 pick. This game has to be one where despite all odds and circumstances we see Bryce Young indisputably rise to the occasion. I need to see it. I hope to see it.

We can split hairs but at the end of the day Wilks couldn't get it done. If he could have gotten us in the playoffs I feel like he pretty much would have been guaranteed the job. Does that mean I think he's a "bad" coach? No not at all. If I could get a do over and had to only choose between him or Reich would I pick Wilks? Sure. I didn't even want Reich he was not on my radar at all and I had to convince myself because he was our first offensive minded head coaching hire. But this hire should have always boiled down to who would be the best coach to grow with our next young QB. We had to have known we were going to make a big splash move for a QB. Bryce Young is 22 years old. Reich and some of the dinosaurs on this staff were never going to grow with him for the next decade. They're already more than long in the tooth. I just don't feel like you're extending the same level of leeway for the coordinators you speak of that you are for Wilks. Even though they aren't necessarily winning the Colts led by Steichen are certainly competing well given the circumstances. But it's water under the bridge now. All that matters is where we go from here. If track record tells us anything it's that the Panthers led by Tepper will probably find a way to make the wrong decision again. We'll see.

Biff Tannen the huddle version?

We got blown out by this Lions team? Woof.

Hey nothing wrong with getting ready early lol

This data should be presented with clarification that we have thrown the third most passes in the league and we are 31st in yards per pass attempt.

I don't blame them at all for suing. It's one thing to try to stick up for Miller. It's something else to shame the family of the victim. Seems like there are some folks here that are a reflection of the values of the team currently. That's a shame.

That Todd Hampton guy is a jabroni who has baited people into other false rumors over the last year or so. So many frauds out there.

Public desperation means higher asking price. And pretty much any receiver we could be looking at is going to be hesitant at best to play for this franchise. There's no in season fix here. We shouldn't be letting incompetent Scott Fitterer waste anymore resources.

The oline has been an issue for 3 years now and should get Scott Fitterer fired. But Thielen and Chark are not as bad as some are constantly suggesting. The Commanders have given up the most sacks in the league at 34 yet they are middle of the league in YPA. We've only given up 19 sacks. The Falcons Broncos Saints Jets Titans Bears Giants and Commanders have all given up as many as us or more. Out of all of them only the Giants are tied with us in YPA because Daniel Jones. Not the company you want to be in after drafting a QB #1.

We're third. Jaguars and Saints are ahead of us. Despite all those attempts we are 31st in the league in YPA. Brutal.

I can agree there are subjects that have reached beaten dead horse status. But if you're referring to Bryce Young well unfortunately unless he pulls a full 180 and looks like a ROTY candidate that poor beaten horse isn't going anywhere. Looking good at home in the Texans game against the #2 pick could make a big difference in building some level of goodwill for the fans though.

There's a fine line between steering conversation and dictating thoughts though. I could see the desire for this tactic if the team were doing okay and the discourse was still volatile. But this team hasn't been in the playoffs in going on 7 years. The last thing fans need is to be told how to deal with losing.

Well at least he can throw the deep ball.

I think we have different definitions of respectable. The Lions game is really all anyone has to hang their hat on last season. How about that Buc's game? Can we talk about the decision making in that one? Was Wilks coaching the team or no? Rhule was gone. He's a defensive minded head coach whose defense gave up 35 first half points. That's gotta be in the conversation of one of our worst halves of football in franchise history btw. Should we give Reich any sort of pass because he has some Rhule players left on the roster? I think you're getting some wires crossed. You're suggesting I'm getting swept up in outside factors when it's clear you've got some of your own tied up in Wilks. I think he's a fine man. But it's clear to me and remains clear to me we were choosing between the wrong choices because our owner got scared after getting embarrased by Matt Rhule. He went with what he perceived to be the "safe" route and this is what happens. Reich is trash. But that doesn't mean Wilks would be working any kind of magic here either. He already showed he was very Riveraesque in that Bucs loss that ended up being a fight for the division title. Reich is similar in he's stuck in his ways is slow to adapt and is bafflingly stubborn. We forced ourselves to choose between two different versions of a head coach we already fired. Ron Rivera. I've said really all I can about the subject. Good luck to you and yours trying to enjoy what's left of our season.

The Hornets throw morals out the window for the sake of winning and they're still trash.

I had a couple very nice movements this morning. Happy Friday everybody.

That's fair.

Oof. It's been a rough season for fantasy. I've got Nacua and A.J. Brown to fall back on at least. I had Burrow but got fed up and dropped him a few weeks ago. My team is floundering anyways. Have fun!

Good you can share in my misery.

You're comparing two different sh*t piles by applying revisionist history. There's this or there's giving up 35 first half points to the Bengals with a defensive interim head coach. Losing is losing.

I'm not trying to argue he wasn't a really good QB. Just saying the truth is his numbers do have to be looked at with a grain of salt so to speak after what we know of that era now. This article is a pretty solid summary of what I'm getting at. https://theshadowleague.com/brees-is-the-nfls-all-time-passing-leader-but-hes-not-the-goat/

Brees won a title and from then on if we're being honest did a great deal of stat padding throughout the regular season for the next decade or so. Never went back to the SB. He's undoubtedly a hall of famer. But that's how I see it full picture.

Obviously Fitterer must go. My fear is the unknown of how much our owner has been in Scott's ear for these drafts though. It might not matter all that much if we fire him.