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It all comes back to Tepper. He was hyper focused on thinking we're a QB away and he directed his yes man Scott Fitterer to do his bidding. The attempts to acquire a QB got more and more desperate each time to the point we finally backed ourselves into a corner that could seal our fate for the next few years minimum. And at a time where our division and the NFC is ripe for the taking. Fug the Tepper's.

FYI he was here before the draft under a different username and he was the most toxic pro Bryce Young poster to the point he got banned for being excessively abusive to others who did not share his view.

I do believe Reich did want Stroud. Go back and look at his proday. But in the end Reich was a dinosaur and I think it just was not a match one way or another. Should have hired Steichen. But Tepper didn't want some young guy who had never been a head coach before telling him what's what. Conversely he didn't want Wilks either. Reich was just the type of man Tepper could overshadow and manipulate and he wouldn't make a big fuss. That should tell you how completely screwed we are for the foreseeable future.

Some of these folks should speak to Tepper about getting on the payroll. No reason not to get paid if they are going to spend their free time towing the company line.

Bryce Young and his parents said...

Jake Noooo!

It's funny that after all the hype and fluff and Steph Curry comparison revolving around him being a point guard suddenly now what we need is a mythical guru QB coach who can unlock Bryce Young. Can anyone even name the QB coach for these undrafted rookie QB's that are winning despite their own inconvenient set of circumstances? If only the "right" QB coach could have fixed Sam Darnold eh?

It's pretty obvious. Considering how badly he's played and what the team gave up to draft him Bryce Young could have it a great deal worse considering he's already gotten his first head coach and QB coach fired in the first season. The media is mostly still going to bat for him. He should be very thankful he plays in this smaller media market the daggers would be out daily in somewhere like NY.

Cam is getting a reality check in how people still view him despite being a former MVP. The man changed the game and they're giving him the same treatment from yesteryear. They'll agree with you on Bryce Young because Alabama but if you go too far they're at your neck.

He can spill all this info but he couldn't stick his neck out to speak up for CJ Stroud?

Lowest point in franchise history and Cam is like fug it I'm lighting everybody up lol

As long as Tepper and his wife are involved there is one thing you will always be able to count on. Things ending badly eventually.

That's interesting and awkward because we've been told Bryce's best comp is Tua. Well about that... I love Cam. Defended the guy tooth and nail when folks were directing ignorance on him that had nothing to do with his on field play. But former players can be wrong about prospects too. Highly paid scouts and general managers are too and that's why many teams consistently are looking for new blood every few years. I think Cam just doesn't want to be wrong. Honestly I'm disappointed he didn't stick up for CJ Stroud at all or try to get the Panthers to at least reconsider him. CJ looked up to him and counted him as an inspiration for himself growing up. Some of the things said about him were also said of Cam. I'll be putting less stock in some of these former player takes going forward. They can be just as wrong as any rando here.

If it was so indisputable as you say why didn't he throw at the combine? Few fans here or any other fanbase have coached or played anywhere near the NFL level. Does that mean they aren't allowed to talk football? Stroud or AR or Levis would have their struggles with this team. Of that I have no doubt. But defenses would have to play us very differently once they watch the film and realize there is a QB behind center who will carve them up all over the field. Defenses are simply not at all scared of Bryce Young's arm. They dare him to throw. Even when we get a receiver behind the entire defense our QB can't hit him. Idk man I think you need to decompress and go put on some chill music or something. You seem hella toxic yourself on this subject and quite frankly you act like you're his agent or his father. It's going to be okay.

Uh I'd argue your statement was revisionist history. Stroud showed off indisputable arm talent that Bryce Young did not. He put the ball in places and tight windows that you look for from elite QB's in the NFL. Surprise surprise he's done that at this level. That unfortunately was never Bryce Young. We drafted him knowing he had an "adequate" arm at best but in no way did he have a cannon or the ability to make throws like we saw from Will Levis when we played the Titans. Your overall argument seems to consist of spinning in circles grasping in every direction for anyone or anything to assign blame. That's fine. That will last the rest of this season and partially next season but the expiration date is near. And please stop putting this kid in the same convo as Cam Newton. Cam Newton was a phsyical monster and an undisputed winner. He brought a different culture to this team. That can't be replicated by just anyone.

That's debatable at best. He didn't even throw a the combine. Stroud was the top prospect and that's showing at this level. You don't have to like it but that's the reality.

Folks in here going off the deep end blaming the fans and the overall franchise lol. Where was this energy for Darnold and Bridgewater? Was it also the fault of the fans and the franchise that Kyle Allen wasn't actually the second coming of Tom Brady? Unless you're his agent and are paid to represent him take a deep breath and realize he's set for life no matter what happens here. He will be alright regardless of the fans or the team.

Have ya'll not learned to stop putting expectations on this kid of comparing him to hall of famers??? Before the draft it was Curry and even Michael Jordan and Brees and Doug Flutie. Now that he's going to likely finish with one of the worst statistical seasons ever you're back to this? How about we just let him show us he can be a competent starter and go from there? Cool? Thanks.

Comparing him to Cam in any way shape or form is ridiculous. It shouldn't need to be said but I guess that's where we're at.

Right. If my options are to either watch this trade go down in flames as one of the worst in league history or eat crow I'll eat crow 10 times out of 10. Just to be clear if it were to happen it would be one of the most miraculous turnarounds in league history. So we're right back to praying for him to be an outlier amongst outliers. Might as well hope for a winning lotto ticket while we're at it.

Tepper gonna Tepper. If you let him coach and do not give him control of personnel maybe it could be alright. But I just do not see Bill putting up with Tepper and his wife sticking their noses in the way they do. He would flatly tell them to kick rocks.

Wrong thread.

Eh maybe. But with either of those two at least they actually showed something to make you go "wow alright this guy could be special". Still waiting to see that from our first overall pick.

Nobody wants Bryce Young to fail and the team to have given up what we did for nothing. Acknowledging the full reality of the situation as it stands ≠ rooting for failure. If you didn't go this hard in defense of Baker Mayfield Sam Darnold PJ Walker Teddy Bridgewater or Kyle Allen then just give it a rest.

He's been sacked 26 times through 4 games. That's half as many sacks as the Panthers have given up over the course of the entire season at 51. Excellent job bringing this to our attention Mr Mojo Risin 🫡