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I think we're largely speaking the same language. It's put up or shut up for Bryce Young this year.

The cap can be manipulated yes but it's always a matter of time before you have to eat a shīt sandwich. And the perception of that hinges on how well you are doing. When things are going good and your team is winning it's more palatable. But that has not always been the case with our Panthers at all. I do not think we should be "all in" by any means at this juncture. How we do this season will determine that down the line. As of right now we should not be looking to mortgage the future for one of the worst passing offenses in the league.

Kind of important yes.

His two best career games as a Panther were both in a dome in Georgia. I mean credit where it's due let's hang the banner. But what's his record everywhere else? What's his record against the Saints?

If Morgan starts getting trade up happy his keys need to be taken away.

He did play better against the Rams. But that's the crux of the issue. He is closing in on 50 career games. There have been plenty of past Panthers QB's who ultimately weren't the answer who would have undoubtedly flashed here and there if we had given them this many starts. Hopefully Dan Morgan actually fields a realistically competitive QB room this go around and we will be able to see the offense with someone else in the event we see the same thing with Bryce. IE one game he stinks plays better for a few games then stinks again then plays better one game stinks again then plays better for a few games because the heat is on. Like cmon enough with this. He's run out of rope.

Guys the Saints did indeed go to cap hell they just managed it afterwards better than we did and that's after losing a hall of fame QB and coach. Do not twist yourself into a pretzel thinking us kicking cans down the road is going to work out splendidly.

I am on board with drafting a Center. However any scenario where we give an extension to our current QB means we can forget building a well rounded roster and maximize this young core. Especially considering most are suggesting he needs elite pieces across the board just to look servicable.

Oddly enough I was just in another thread and saw someone saying if Bryce has another statistical year like last season (4-6 to finish the season and swept by the Saints en route to backing into the playoffs with help from the Falcons) that we should ink him to an extension. These people are mentally ill or something.

In the Bryce Young era against the rebuilding Saints post Brees and post Payton we are 2-4 against the Saints. And the two wins we barely squeaked past them. Legitimately pathetic.

Some people have been beaten down so long they have no standards. Can't be reasoned with.

Yeah Morgan has had one awful draft and one solid draft. And his success to this point has largely hinged on him throwing obscene amounts of money at free agents. Which again literally anyone else could do that. Anyways. Keep in mind that once upon a time a large majority of the huddle were once rabid Scott Fitterer fans. And I am not exaggerating. There were times where it seemed like folks were about ready to come to blows if anyone had the nerve to question Scott Fitterer's prowess as an evaluator of talent. Quite amusing looking back.

Ron Rivera was imperfect to say the least. The huddle in particular was heavily critical of his coaching. But what's done is done. That's a long dead beaten horse. Gotta turn the page. Ron Rivera is still a good man. As for Gettleman. He was a complete dick. Which ironically makes him a kindred spirit of sorts in relation to Steve Smith. So in a way Steve after years of being the abrasive asshole to people got a dose of his own medicine and he certainly didn't like it. And he's still lashing out over it all these years later. As we age we are supposed to grow wiser and be more introspective and willing to reflect and adapt. These concepts are apparently completely lost on Steve Smith.

If his approach to Mays and Nijman specifically means we will be using those resources to go hard on the defense then I am for it. But we cannot revert back to treating Center as an afterthought again otherwise he is going to find out the hard way the same as Fitterer did and Dan was here by his side to see that unfold firsthand.

That's strange because if that's all there is then this is very old recycled news. Steve already made this claim public years ago and it has been talked about here before. Ron to my knowledge has never publicly responded so I have no idea if it's true or not. But really it doesn't matter. I mean ultimately if Ron did do that I couldn't say I blame him. Steve Smith has a reputation as a very volatile immature and spiteful person on top of a history of violence. He could have used these years since to reflect and progress as a person but it seems he has no interest in that. It's best for all involved to just not engage with him.

I was very critical of Ron Rivera as a coach for a range of reasons. But Steve Smith has been playing the victim for years now and it's just not working anymore. We know for a fact that he was disgruntled from the moment we drafted Cam Newton because of his own ego. That says more about him than anything he could say about Rivera. And yes Ron Rivera had a lot of faults. No excuses for it. We were right to move on from him. But ultimately Steve Smith couldn't hold it together with that group the same as he struggled to hold it together under previous regimes. He needs to grow up and accept his own role in the last few years of his Panthers career because there are things he could and should have done differently the same as anyone else. Stop seeking to only shift blame to everyone else and evolve or just stop talking and fade away. This isn't helping anyone and it is certainly not helping his image.

I would certainly love to add a talent like Lloyd. But there is a legitimate question of how sustainable this model of chasing and potentially overpaying high priced free agents to resolve our issues is. It doesn't take a guru GM to sign the best available FA. We have many needs. Here's to hoping Dan knocks this upcoming draft out of the park. In the end that's all that will ultimately matter.

Heavy risk involved all around. For all the talk of left tackle. The middle of our oline and center specifically was horrific just a few years ago. Led to much whailing and hand wringing. People are quick to forget.

Obviously tongue in cheek hyperbole. But we do not need a first round RB to compete for a championship. We need intelligent roster building. That to me is the complete opposite of intelligent roster building because it is a prime resource at a devalued plug and play position when we have needs across the defense.

Tush push engaged!

If the Panthers drafted an RB in the first we should legitimately set fire to the stadium.

Finding consistency especially from our go to scorers has been the key for this team and they are doing that. We are finally away from the selfish hero ball nonsense. But more than that this has been a team that was very unmotivated defensively in the past. They have made significant strides in that area. They also seemed to have learned and been motivated by that loss to the Pistons so that is a great sign. Sitting at 30-31 now it's time to see if they can sustain this to finish the season. Get in the playoffs and anything can happen.

Did you watch the playoffs and the Super Bowl? Balanced team is the pathway to success. Our defense needs a ton of resources.