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Don't get me wrong I'm not saying he shouldn't be able to get even in some capacity all things considered. But I don't think he absolutely needs social media to do that. Though that's our culture now. Everything is reality television. Anyways if she's been arrested twice for domestic assault I'm assuming against him or a previous ex before him then that marriage was doomed from the start. Sounds like this man should be celebrating. You only live once. Why waste it on a crazy skeezer? Get that divorce lawyer to work and go enjoy your life.

I understand and sympathize with the husband who was cheated on but honestly that was corny and cringe and just makes him seem like all he cares about is trying to go viral. It sucks and all but you aren't the only person out there that's had a marriage fall apart over cheating. Kick her to the curb file for divorce and get that out of your life. You don't need to make a spectacle on twitter. And honestly with how open she was texting things like that this guy had to have had suspicions already. There had to have been red flags when you married her. This can't all be a complete shock. I feel sorry for Steve's wife and family who now have to publicly deal with this clownery. And that is exactly what it is on Steve's part. You are blessed multiple ways over and you are not a young kid anymore. Well he's gonna be paying up now. Good luck with that.

I'm hoping this downtrodden cursed franchise is going to turn things around somehow but you are probably right. But. He's still stuck with "LeGM"

You summed it up for me. In the future for a trade of this magnitude if something like this happens it should automatically go to an independent physician and from there that particular determination paired with the information from both teams should be compiled and put forth to the league and the league should make the final call IMO. Otherwise this is what you get. Chaos for no logical reason. I wouldn't say it was exclusively about Knecht the unprotected first was certainly the larger motivating factor for them. At the same time right after news of the trade began to circulate rumors started about Knecht being traded because of a perceived rift with Bronny James. Now I'm not arguing it was true or not obviously we can't say. But all of this combined with the widespread conclusion that the Lakers got taken advantage of because they were desperate had to have had a heavy impact on their final determination. I just refuse to buy they were concerned about a decade from now that to me just reads like an excuse a child would come up with. But I feel bad for Mark and Dalton. They didn't do anything wrong in all this. However Dalton isn't the one who had his reputation dragged through the mud. I certainly think other teams in the league will reconsider dealing with the Lakers after this. At the very least other teams will cover every possible base and go out of their way to leave nothing to chance because obviously the NBA doesn't care.

Well look I can agree it is absolutely a very valid notion to question if Mark Williams will even be in the NBA in ten years. But that could be said for most guys his size and playing into their mid thirties. That I feel like is for a different conversation because these newer generations of players are built differently physically and mentally. There are so many distractions now with social media and off the court. Anyway on principle I concede your point has merit. I'm not saying you're wrong I just think the reasoning on their part as they presented it to the Hornets and the league was nonsense. They got buyers remorse over the compensation they gave up. They weren't making that trade for 10 or even 5 years from now. LeBron will be long gone within half that time and Luka at this point while possessing very significant offensive talent has huge questions looming about his future conditioning and defensive effort. That will be a completely different franchise ten years from now regardless of trading for a Mark Williams or any other big man. They went all in on that trade for the short term and when the league at large gave the Hornets credit for effectively getting the better of them on the deal they looked for any reason to pull the plug knowing Adam Silver would back them up. Anywho it's over and done with. Personally I hope that whole situation over there ends in a spectacular debacle for the Lakers. But I'm petty

Remember when some folks here declared the position a resounding success for years to come? Good thing we didn't trade up into the 2nd round to draft an injured RB instead of taking a center

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article/mark-williams-agent-disputes-lakers-rescinding-trade-for-hornets-center-due-to-failed-physical-210454614.html "The overwhelming sentiment, after conferring with multiple, nationally recognized doctors, is that the Los Angeles Lakers should not have failed Mark Williams on his physical,” said Excel Sports Management's Jeff Schwartz in a statement. “Mark was ready and able to play for them and should have been given that opportunity.” "I don’t know for them, if it was what they gave up or went into that reasoning. But I don’t think it was solely because of my physical,” Williams told Sportskeeda's Mark Medina. "I’ve been playing all year. And I think my minutes and production on the court speak for itself." The more I read about this the more it's plainly obvious the Lakers got cold feet over the compensation they gave up and Adam Silver ran cover for them. The Hornets were never going to be given a legitimate opportunity to challenge a storied big market franchise. Take one on the chin and move on is what our front office was told. That's pretty much it.

I tend to agree with you and I was frustrated with that as well but we do not know what conversations went on behind closed doors. I think the likelihood is ultimately the front office did speak to Silver and raise concerns but he basically dismissed them thus nothing "official" was filed. The league knows the Lakers are their money maker. They are not going to let that all go down. Stuff like this is why I've largely detached from basketball when I used to be very passionate about it when I was younger. Small markets in this league don't stand a chance.

I wouldn't root for any of these big market teams if you paid me. I am thrilled the lowly Hornets embarrassed them in their own city. That's the absolute least they deserve.

Well. Let's just all be up front with one another here. I mean we've been optimistic and hopeful because generally every fanbase is this time of year even for the worst teams like ours. But what percentage would you say our odds of finishing with a winning record are this upcoming season? 25% at best? And that's being optimistic. At the point where our season is over and we've moved onto a backup it would be only about the development of the core young players on the roster. Unfortunately there won't be much if any development with a 38 year old QB that finished with one of the worst passer ratings in the league. And whom let's just be completely blunt here. Played so horrifically after that lone Raiders win that the Panthers logged as much mileage as humanly possible out of a thumb sprain so that they wouldn't even have to so much as look at Andy Dalton behind center again. My opinion is that the Panthers are once again banking on comfortability. For Bryce Young. Maybe it will work. Then again. This is the logic of a franchise that has the worst win percentage in professional sports so it's perfectly rational to be skeptical. The biggest plus we have right now is that our #1 pick finished the season on a high note and looked very confident and in command. Of course that doesn't guarantee anything going forward unfortunately. And while I am more confident in Bryce going forward I am also remaining of the opinion that revamping this QB room to a point where guys are actually pushing one another on the field and in the film room would be significantly more valuable than paying someone who is nearly as old as Derek Anderson that has been retired for 7 years shouting "go get em' Bryce!" and giving him high fives on the sideline. We hired a young offensive minded head coach who is well known for his communication and QB development for this purpose. If the Panthers kick Jack Plummer to the curb and bring in an actual young QB prospect that has potential and isn't an afterthought at best I'll feel at least marginally better. But I still see this as a missed opportunity. Time will tell who here was right about this. But we all do want the same thing. I've got no personal hard feelings toward anyone that feels differently to be clear. We will see how it shakes out.

Hurney undoubtedly did some good for us but man there was so much bad. And supposedly and luckily for us he unsuccessfully tried to trade up for Jimmy Clausen. I will agree Gettleman got the Panthers to the Super Bowl with a core of Hurney players though. Some of us here were saying that at the time. And then Gettleman's corresponding moves following that loss pretty much slammed our window shut from there. At the time I believe we were the only team to win 15 or more games and go to a Super Bowl and then have a losing record the following season. Anyways it remains to be seen how Dan Morgan will be at drafting in the later rounds from here but we absolutely need to nail this years first round pick first and foremost and no we are not going to do that trading down for chump change like some people are clamoring for.

The only thing we know about the Panthers culture is after a disastrous start to the season after thinking we didn't need preseason reps our team played better and snagged a few wins after we were eliminated from playoff contention. This team still has everything to prove make no mistake and yes this QB room remains front and center of that.

Everyone knows Bryce Young is the starter. Although there is still a great deal to prove for him Canales and the rest of the team when the games matter. But friendly competition is good for everyone and makes everyone better. And the Panthers seem to be one of the few teams that do not value this mindset especially regarding the most consequential position on the team. And it is not at all like they have earned any benefit of the doubt either. And again we had these same kind of conversations about preseason last year with the Panthers thinking they know better than the majority of the rest of the league. Also Derek Anderson is currently 41 years old and has been out of football for going on 7 years now. Andy Dalton will be 38 next season. Just a stupid desperate comparison.

Until proven otherwise we still have what was one of the bottom QB rooms in the league last year. And that was with one of the better OL units in the league. The last thing we should do is jettison Moton as of right now.

I liked Derek Anderson a lot but he was a pal nothing more. Cam Newton in his early years was rookie of the year and built like a tank. People might have had questions about Cam's accuracy but that was it. Nothing at all comparable to the still unanswered questions about Bryce. Not to mention Anderson never had to play any extended time nor did he look horrendously awful in the process. At the end of the day the people justifying this are the same people who were in here shouting down concern about preseason last year. Carrying water for the decision makers of the sports franchise with the worst win percentage in professional sports is just coping.

Isn't that exactly what we did last year and then we opened with two of the worst losses in franchise history?

There goes any wind in the sails of my offseason hope that might have been building. We had at one point last season the worst or at least one of the three worst QB rooms in the league and that is not hyperbole regardless of what anyone might attempt to argue. We should have gone toward a younger vet if anything. We do not owe Andy Dalton any loyalty. The Saints couldn't wait for him to leave and they are garbage. Meanwhile our Panthers are like "Hey we can't let Andy leave town we need a mentor for our third year first overall pick". Just comically depressing levels of ineptitude.

https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-durant-derides-nba-all-star-criticism-its-more-fun-to-complain-about-the-nba-than-to-actually-watch-it-184230428.html Spoiled entitled team jumpers with a net worth of roughly 300 million dollars like Kevin Durant going on social media to complain about the fans that pay their salary is a pitiful look for a league that has already been struggling with viewership. Let these assholes go work a regular job like the majority of the rest of the population.

Still somehow better than Scott Fitterer and no it isn't close.

Personally I'm done with the "trade a quarter for 2 dimes and a nickel" Fitterer logic so I say stay put and take a top prospect regardless. No matter how the top 7 picks play out there will be a damn good player available and we should take that player based on the fact we have needs across the board.

Geez people are very passionate about Travis Hunter. He seems like a solid dude. I think he has a great deal of potential wherever he ends up. For myself and my knowledge of Panthers draft history I'm ready to see us stop gambling on raw WR prospects and putting a much heavier emphasis on fundamentals ie route running and hands. But that's just me.

In the 4th or 5th round like the majority of other teams are doing? Sure. But unfortunately we are also in a predicament where every draft pick this year is crucial. Not to beat a dead horse but this is really what we should have done last year. Alas...