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We've seen Bryce Young personally audible into some truly terrible plays even as recent as last year so this notion that he is significantly better at reading defenses doesn't exist within the realm of reality from my POV. He has not had a great deal of freedom within the structure of the offense for good reason. I would say he is average in football IQ. He isn't awful. But in no way shape or form was he or is he generational or top pick worthy in that aspect as he was billed predraft. Overall he is at best in the 22-25 range amongst all starting QB's and that is being generous.

Sam Darnold had over 1k more passing yards than Bryce Young and Sam had 477 pass attempts to Bryce's 478. Read that back to yourself a couple of times and then wave the white flag brother.

What the Seahawks accomplished with a balanced roster and a dominant defense gives me hope for our Panthers. They are very well coached and very well run and it pains me to acknowledge that. Now while Darnold had plenty of help on both sides of the ball and he still had moments of vintage Darnold I think you are making too much of the mental aspect as if Bryce Young is a savant. He's never lived up to the superprocessor billing and he never will for what we gave up. And at the end of the day you can wax poetic about what Darnold may or may not lack between the ears but Darnold was 10th in passing yards per game while Bryce was 31st. We're never going to compete for a Super Bowl with that.

Let's keep it a hundred here. Say what you want about Darnold. He's had some truly horrendous games and some horrendous seasons in his early years. But not even he was oblivious enough afterwards to say he just wanted to get away from football and watch Netflix or YouTube and go shopping for clothes while netting $38 million guaranteed. So we probably shouldn't throw stones.

Well. At least he can run a sneak.

I'll take that 7th and run.

Defense Defense Defense You can put All Pros up and down the offense they are still at the mercy of a bottom 10 QB.

I went to the same chart. Sounds about right. Too much for me. I completely understand the allure with trading up and getting those butterflies but do we want to actually build a long term contender here? Then we need to compile picks and focus on actually drafting quality talent in the later rounds. That's the only path forward for a franchise such as ours.

I've been critical of Dave for some of his gameday decisions but it's certainly plainly obvious to anyone with eyes his offense is significantly handcuffed by the most integral moving part within.

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/team-stats?category=downs&sort=o_4thpct&season=2025&seasonType=reg&sortOrder=desc We were also 24th in first downs and 26th in third downs despite having at one point in the season arguably the most productive RB in the league. When you actually dig into the numbers you see why Canales was going for it on fourth so often. Legitimately it was the only way he could make this Bryce Young led offense look even partially productive statistically when it was all said and done.

Ahhh touché. So if you remove half of our fourth down attempts that would put us at 76 punts which would be 3rd in the league. https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/view/special/stat/punting/table/punting/sort/punts/dir/desc What a laughably putrid offense.

Outside of rounds 1-4 we have two 5ths and a 6th. What are we trading up with? And when was the last time trading up in the first worked out spectacularly for us?

Hornets would have to practically win out and make a run to the conference finals for Charles Lee to wrestle coach of the year away from Bickerstaff or Mitch Johnson.

He certainly earned his money last year thanks to us finishing 27th in YPG. That's a lot of punts.

Given our options it is obviously one of the better moves we could have made and there does not seem to be anyone that is not in favor of adding a decent left tackle given our circumstances. But at the end of the day that is roughly what he will end up being for us. Anyone expecting him to be head and shoulders better than Icky might as well get ready to pull a complete 180 because you can bet your bottom dollar sooner or later they'll be screaming for his head.

30 point win. That's how you bounce back. Glad they gave the home crowd such a dominant performance over a bitter rival. Now let's carry this vibe into April.

Blowing out the Heat late in the 4th quarter. Now that is a sight to behold.

Or. Hear me out. We could actually draft one worth a damn seeing as we have a former LB for a general manager.

We need to defeat the Heat at home tonight. Tired of playing little brother to those fưcks.

If we were a consistently competently run franchise yes. Unfortunately we are a franchise run by the Tepper's and you just can't put it past anyone involved not to give Bryce Young an extension for playing just mediocre enough to be carried to wins that he did virtually no heavy lifting in.

Well if we are being realistic doesn't what you just lined out already tell us where we are at? If the rookie UDFA kicker was the savior more often than not and we had a bottom 5 offense despite us having a #1 pick behind center who was billed predraft as a mini Payton Manning is that just going to magically change trajectory overnight with a tougher schedule added in? If we are going to repeat as division champions then it will be with the defense doing the heavy lifting. So keep adding to it.

Unfortunately that is one area where his abilities are hindered without a doubt. That being said we have had issues with drops. But I don't think we are or were anywhere near the top of the league in that aspect. Overall I would be happy if we added another legit receiving TE but I would be of the opinion that his full potential will be squandered until we have a starting QB with the necessary physical tools. Just a matter of accepting the reality staring back at us.

You can add the TE we seek but opposing defenses still have to believe the QB can deliver him the ball at a high level particularly over the middle which is where the really good TE's thrive and that hasn't exactly been an area of the field our passing O has thrown to at a high % the last 3 years we've had a whole thread on that already. You can bet opposing defenses with nearly 50 games of tape will certainly be licking their chops waiting to see us try.

Ah yes a typical Bryce Young Defense Force post. No mention of the reigning Rookie of the Year or the #1 highest paid OL in the league two years in a row. Yes clearly our QB just needs All Pros at every position. We'll get right on that.

I have no issues with him from a personal standpoint I just tend to think he is mostly mid at absolute best as a head coach and that's if everything is going perfectly around him. If the team falters down the stretch I think it would be in our best interest to explore potential replacements after the season. Even teams like the Knicks recently fired their head coach after a playoff run. Either we are trying to turn the corner as a franchise or we aren't. And if we are we need standards.