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Highest amount of OL salary cap in the league too. The Chiefs are behind us at 2 but we are ahead of them by a cool $23 million. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/position/offensive-line/_/year/2026/table/active/sort/cap_total

This is true. And the fact of the matter is the second injury was entirely noncontact. That in itself is a major issue in terms of the will he or won't he talk regarding on if he will ever be able to establish any semblance of longevity in relation to an NFL career.

They horribly misspelled Rico Dowdle.

On the one hand I do feel like it will only be a matter of time before Rasheed Walker receives his share of criticism from Panthers fans. But we don't need any excuses this season. Keep the highest paid OL in the league intact and await the end result.

"Guys 2023 wasn't fair let's just pretend it didn't happen and give Bryce Young a pass for one of the worst rookie seasons in at least a quarter century". "Let's also pretend Bryce Young didn't start each season his first 3 years in the league playing like one of the worst Panthers QB's in franchise history". "Did you know Cam Newton had a down year in 2014? And we'll just completely disregard his record setting first 3 seasons in the league so that clearly means Bryce Young is actually good".

If there is a double standard at play here it is you picking a down year and selectively ignoring 2011 2012 and 2013 to denigrate the only MVP in franchise history because you want to carry water for a #1 pick who indisputably moves the ball at a historically low rate. Lower than Blaine Gabbert. In 2014 Newton in a down year where the Panthers had the 25th highest paid OL in the league and Byron Bell at left tackle he accumulated 3,666 all purpose yards 23 touchdowns 12 interceptions and 1 lost fumble Bryce's best statistical season to date where the Panthers had the highest paid offensive line in the entire league he accumulated 3,227 all purpose yards 25 touchdowns 11 interceptions and 2 lost fumbles Why is Cam Newton's floor more than acceptable for a #1 pick whose representatives in his fourth season in the league will be looking for him to be paid like a top 10 QB?

In terms of the possibility of Bryce Young following Sam Darnold's career arc to this point think of the movie Big with Tom Hanks. That's basically what would have to happen. Unfortunately we don't exist within a feel good fantasy film universe.

It should not be about his accomplishments alone such as winning the division or making the playoffs because we just did that and we needed help from the Failcons of all teams while getting swept by the Saints and a rookie 2nd round QB. If he can navigate a statistical top 12 QB season in key statistical metrics and we often win because of his contributions and not in spite of them then it should be under heavy consideration and negotiation. Even then though the situation has to be assessed logically knowing that tying up top 10-12 QB salary for a team that already has had the highest paid OL in the league two years in a row is not a sustainable long term approach whatsoever and going forward it will only be more crucial as his career progresses that he is able to elevate the sum of the moving parts around him rather than being wholly dependent on them the majority of the time.

Welp the Pistons are back on the couch with us. Blown out in game 7.

His representatives would be pushing for at least Daniel Jones money as a starting point in negotiations. Which if you are someone operating with functional brain cells would be a HARD PASS.

Malik Willis is making $22 million a year which is good for 16th in the league. No way in hell should we pay Bryce Young top 10 QB money unless he is actually walking on water.

I generally felt even our decision makers weren't foolish enough to actually do this. That would end up being an all time blunder that would follow everyone in the front office for the rest of their careers. However we stil can't put it past them to jump the gun and begin negotiations late in the year if he has a couple of really good games while looking serviceable at best in others while the rest of the roster carries him. The concern remains that in their eyes "deserving" a contract extension means just not looking outright terrible.

Quite a few people argued we way overpaid high end starter money for a guy that was basically a capable backup at best. It was a bad move facilitated by a need to save face after missing out on Williams. It is what it is man. We aren't being paid to carry Dan Morgan's water. It'll be alright.

There was a time when this place had bigots roaming. They were easy to spot in the Cam years. The overwhelming majority are long gone. But this logic that if you expect BY to play like a #1 pick and elevate the team you are racist is comical beyond words. Especially when you consider these same posters will throw any other player or coach under the bus in an instant to suit their narrative. Also. Under such logic. Every person critical of Evero is a racist. Which coincidentally would include pretty much every Bryce Young defender.

And that is the definition of what it is to be a #1 pick. Overcoming adversity and performing at a high level in doing so. Only in the Panthers fanbase has that definition shifted to playing at a high level only when the moving parts around them are elite and the conditions are 100% ideal. Loser mentality.

Idk if this has been posted but seems fairly relevant given the discussion of how tough our schedule is.

He's had 2 career games in a dome against the Falcons. Is there a specific reason you would rather not discuss the other 44?

Salt in the wound is this was a reactionary signing to missing out on Milton Williams. Morgan is not infallible unfortunately.

I've been told views like this only exist here on the CarolinaHuddle.

It's definitely noticeable the change in outlook on the Panthers now versus early in the year following the playoff game when hopium was high. Clearly more people have actually dug into the numbers and tape of our passing offense and came away with the obvious glaring conclusion. We will need to replicate the dominance of our run game last season or we are DOA.

The Bears? Where QB's and WR's go to die?

Well we've dogged on Joe Person for years and he's been pretty much the only constant around here. Just saying keep expectations low.

Hope to see you get that restored.

Of course it's a crapshoot to find a truly elite QB. But we don't even need that to be competitive or successful. Our two best long term starters in 3 decades of existence were both flawed yet productive passers and each led us to a Super Bowl. Hell Jake Delhomme in the year where his arm went off a cliff and we had to start Matt Moore for a couple spells we had a superior passing offense than anything we've seen under Bryce Young the last 3 years. We're still trying to crack the top 25. All I'm saying is this is not the 2023 Panthers by any means. The cupboards are not bare. We are not working with scraps. We have invested through the nose to build up the roster and the trenches on both sides of the ball. We've also added multiple first and second day pass catchers in the draft. If a QB can't succeed here they are cooked.

Some of those tougher matchups we've been going back and forth on definitely look more ideal at home. But if that leak is legit a bye week so early is the last thing we need especially given our slow starts the last few years.