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We hope. But we can't automatically assume anything with this group of decision makers

The Forehead was gifted that Second Super Bowl.

Sadly Bryce is smaller.

Kon Knueppel is sensational for a rookie and he's still learning. Even though it's going to be another long sesson at least this years draft class is a home run.

Jim Harbaugh seems to be a believer in him. Really it just comes down to longevity. We could throw money at one of the aging vets like Brisset or Winston or Mariota but that really isn't moving the needle much more than Dalton. You're just hoping that they haven't fallen off a steep cliff when you sign them because make no mistake it's there and when it happens it's a wrap. We need a draft pick and we need a younger QB with potential.

Things could be better at WR. It could also be a hell of a lot worse. There is young talent here. I think guys are beginning to lose confidence in what they are doing. Even if they might genuinely like Bryce Young as a person and a teammate it has to wear on them on the field they are all human. If you put someone in there that can keep defenses honest with their arm and unlock the whole field and get these guys some throws that can give them a morale boost I think we would see better results over time. But we unequivocally need that in order to properly evaluate.

I definitely would have to say if any game fell under the category of must win it would have been against the at the time 1 win Saints who have been a complete mess at QB. This game in Atlanta could get ugly quick.

If his awful perfomance as a passer with 40 games under his belt isn't enough to bench him that turtleneck should be. Man really showed up to a children's charity like:

Both Brees and Wilson in their prime had significantly more strength than Bryce Young has. They also hit the weight room. In three years Bryce has made no attempt.

Could see this coming a mile away with the way he and the team presented himself in the Blueprint series the last two years. Anybody can be all positivity and friends with the players. It's when the chips are down that you find out the kind of head coach you've got. He's soft. That's why we've been blown out under him so many times.

It's good that more people are beginning to acknowledge what's been staring them in the face for quite some time now. If only the Panthers will follow along now.

This years draft is a separate discussion. QB is the most consequential position on the football field. Whether you like it or want to acknowledge it the fact of the matter is Morgan chose to continue with one of the worst QB rooms in the league two years in a row. And he extended Andy Dalton after Dalton had a couple of the most putrid starts we've seen in years against the Bears and the Commanders. It was abundantly clear Andy Dalton was done last year. Still Morgan chose to continue to pay him. Andy Dalton now has over $100 million in career earnings. We're just giving away money here.

Oh I agree David Tepper is ultimately the #1 problem. Unfortunately we can't get rid of him and his wife. Before we hired Morgan the league made it pretty clear to David Tepper that virtually no one who was a legitimate candidate wanted to be here. That's why as critical as I've been of Canales i just have a very hard time believing any quality candidate we could seek out will want to hitch their wagon here. I'll just keep waiting watching and laughing. That's all we've got as Panthers fans these days.

Well look let's keep it real.The Tepper's let Matt Rhule basically do whatever the hell he wanted including micromanaging this franchise down to the smallest of details. Unfortunately the likely answer is there are multiple truths at play here. The Tepper's are high key meddlers that have and still do involve themselves in day to day operations to the detriment of the franchise. And Dan Morgan the rest of the FO and Dave Canales are willing participants who are also unfortunately part of the problem. We can't keep absolving people for their roles and expect to magically turnaround a near decade long winning season drought. We as fans do not owe anyone anything for being a sycophant. Because at the end of the day any jackass can be one.

I have no idea why some of you are acting as if the Tepper's are holding Dan Morgan's family hostage and forcing him to maintain the worst QB room in the league.

I understand why you want it to be true that he did not want to draft Bryce Young and personally I feel the same way but we cannot say that and we have Morgan's actions for the last 2 years that reflect the complete opposite. If Dan never wanted him he would have had a fallback plan this year after Bryce opened 2023 and 2024 playing poorly at best and Dan also would certainly have made a move before the trade deadline recently. But none of that happened. That simply does not sound like the actions of someone who never wanted that guy. That's what we have to go by and that's the summary of the situation as it stands however difficult it may be to have to grapple with.

The issue is no one can say definitively that Dan Morgan did not want to draft Bryce Young and thus as a result no one can say all the things he has done have essentially been against his own wishes. If we had hired Dan fresh from another organization and he had zero ties to decisions here that had transpired in 2023 and prior that would be one thing. We could give him some leeway. But he was here and was involved when we went to great lengths to give ourselves as much QB depth as possible.

I like Dan Morgan the person and the player. I like some of the things he's done here with the draft and free agency within the last 12 months. But what he has done at QB is a fireable offense. I know the Tepper's meddle. But I cannot get on board with this notion that Dan Morgan is entirely a hostage to the whims of the Tepper's commands regarding quarterback and Dan Morgan cannot freely think for himself. He is a willing participant folks.

The only conclusion I can make is the Panthers decision makers are just set in their ways for better or worse. The New Orleans Saints kicked this bum to the curb nearly three years ago and have a rookie QB that many people ridiculed them for drafting who might as well be lightyears ahead of our QB room. And people actually want to argue that our GM is competent.

Honestly he's hit and miss with the draft. There is much to like with this years draft but it's still early. The Brooks miss looms large and was just an unnecessary move. And at this point we cannot ignore the XL pick any longer and that pick opens a different conversation btw because there were weird things going on with that like why was Bryce Young's father publicly lobbying for XL and pushing who the Panthers should draft? He's better than Scott Fitterer in the draft but I mean that's saying the absolute bare minimum because Scott Fitterer was the antichrist as an evaluator of talent in the draft. Free agency this year Dan Morgan did well overall with what he had to work with. But all roads lead back to quarterback. It is the most consequential position on the football field. To do what we did with this QB room two years in a row is negligence and should not happen with a professional evaluator of talent.

People get too caught up in the history he has with the team and cannot separate the GM from the player.

Don't speak that into existence sir.

If our local media were at all worth a damn they would be hounding Dan Morgan for interview requests right now. If this were a larger market his feet would be getting held to the fire. He shouldn't get to just hide out in his office.