frankw

So "best defense ever" or nah?

Don't get your hopes up. I doubt we're lucky enough or relevant enough for that to happen. He's already been getting paid for several tiers below mediocre journalism. He's probably just taking time off and they genuinely don't even care because it's the Panthers.

The plus side is it is entertaining watching the Tepper's and their planetary sized egos burn through millions trying and failing to make their version of the Panthers successful.

In his 3rd season he barely edged out rookie Joe Flacco and 2nd year QB Christian Ponder. Magnificent.

38 year old Matthew Stafford put up a combined 831 yards and 6 touchdowns in two games in December and January against the greatest defense in the history of the galaxy. The 2025 Seahawks defense would have gotten lit tf up by the elite QB's of the 2010's if a guy pushing 40 can give them fits like that.

These casual social media fans need to study and understand football that existed before 5 or 10 years ago before going around throwing around best of all time awards.

TE in this offense is largely pointless anyways. Even if we had a coach who valued receiving TE's more we do not have a QB whose skillset centers around maximizing the middle of the field. It's actually one of his weakest areas. Njoku would just end up disgruntled here.

Right now the one thing Bryce Young has to hang his hat on is his dominance of the Falcons in the sphincter dome. But unfortunately they no longer employ Raheem Morris.

I think you're splitting hairs here. No it is not entirely his fault but since Tepper bought the team many aspects have changed for the worse over the years and fan engagement and access to the team has been one of them. We haven't had a winning record in how many years now but training camp is closed off to fans like they're hiding something next level that is going to take the league by storm. That's not even mentioning the fact that at one point the team awkwardly tried to rebrand a new motto and lean away from Keep Pounding until the fanbase kindly told the Tepper's to fug off and cut the crap.

Bryce Young led the Panthers offense to 3 points in 3 quarters. The Seahawks scored 14 unanswered points in the 3rd quarter. Strutting around with your chest out over a touchdown drive late in a game that was long over after our #1 pick finished with one of the most embarrassing stat lines in league history is next level coping. And from someone who uses the term "super weird" to describe others with opposing views. Take this nonsense back to reddit.

The Tepper's really have done a number on this fanbase. Shame.

See above. The Panthers have had a very small number of truly productive QB's in franchise history. All one needs to do is compare and contrast to get an understanding of just how historically downbad our passing offense has been the last 3 years. And why people are trying but struggling to hold out hope that it will just suddenly drastically change. I'd love to see it but...

I mean I've been pretty honestly blunt about Jaycee Horn particularly given his contract extension. But to take a shot at him and make no mention of the #1 pick leading the offense to only 3 passing first downs 1-11 on third down an interception 2.3 yards per attempt and the longest completion of the game being 8 yards and acting as if the Panthers offense was ever truly in that game is beyond the pale. The only way one could come to that conclusion is if they are completely delusional or cognitively impaired.

We mudsling around here from time to time and things can get heated. But I don't know what the hell is going on with that post. That to me reads like something you would see from one of the homers on Panthers reddit who might as well be employed by the Tepper's.

Someone should dig up the predraft threads comparing Bryce Young to Patrick Mahomes Peyton Manning Steph Curry Michael Jordan Bruce Lee etc.

That would be quite the feat considering in both matchups with the Saints last season they looked like they had the superior QB.

Arguing about who had what and who did what with more is just going to end in the same charades. If we're going to waste a lot of hot air arguing then make it about something that cannot be denied. What you are seeing with your own two eyes. Cam Newton was a tremendously talented athlete albeit flawed in fundamental aspects. And although he played poorly in and lost a Super Bowl you cannot deny him that more often than not through his prime his teammates knew they could count on him to hold up his end of the bargain usually and be a key driving force for keeping them in games. Giving his defense much needed rest and motivation in wanting to match his grit as a competitor. That aspect is just not there with Bryce Young. Yeah he's dumped on the Falcons in a dome twice but what about his other 44 games? When has the Panthers defense the last three years ever looked at their starting quarterback and thought to themselves "man I'm so glad he's my QB"?

Looks like barring a complete 4th quarter collapse the Pistons are advancing. I despise them but I have to acknowledge Bickerstaff is a pretty good coach. Honestly jealous.

Historical levels of stupid.

There are definitely valid justifications to be skeptical of Canales as an offensive mind overall. That being said I encourage anyone to dig into our offensive stats and look at how we did specifically on 1st and 3rd down. Yes some of the playcalls certainly could have been better. But we must be bluntly realistic about just how comically predictable our offense is under Bryce Young. That's not going to magically just change in 2026. Such is why I am at least relieved we finally moved on from Dalton and brought in a couple of young QB's.

The huddle as is in terms of traffic and content won't get much better even with new administration unless the Panthers take a couple of really big steps forward this season. If the team takes another step back we're about done for regardless. This fanbase overall just cannot take anymore of the same old same old. It's been too long now with the Tepper's as is.

If the Hornets were in the position right now to push the reviled Pistons to a game 7 I would be elated.

Brother. You are wholly confusing comparing situations and applying actual standards like most other franchises do like simply getting into a playoff series and winning at least 1 or 2 series games with praising. Nobody is praising the Hawks. Nobody is praising the Magic. Nobody here likes those teams. But reality is reality. The Hawks like other franchises have traded players fired coaches etc but they can still win a couple playoff games. How is that not the bare floor for you or anyone else? What are we doing here if it isn't? We've seen eye to eye on many things over the years. But you are in the camp on the Hornets where you are emotionally attached to LaMelo where you feel the need to carry his water like he's got that juice. That's cool that you feel that way. It's your prerogative. But I differ from that viewpoint entirely. If he had that juice we would not have gotten wiped off the court in 2 play in games with 2 different coaching staffs and rosters. if people don't like hearing that well I'm sorry but how the hell is this team ever going to get better and ultimately go anywhere in the postseason if we just blindly pat them on the back for getting their asses whooped before they actually even get into the real playoffs? There seem to be some Bryce Young level standards being applied here. That's wild to me. But to each his own.

They're both very talented. In the long run I think not getting the award will make Kon even better.