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Salt in the wound is this was a reactionary signing to missing out on Milton Williams. Morgan is not infallible unfortunately.

I've been told views like this only exist here on the CarolinaHuddle.

It's definitely noticeable the change in outlook on the Panthers now versus early in the year following the playoff game when hopium was high. Clearly more people have actually dug into the numbers and tape of our passing offense and came away with the obvious glaring conclusion. We will need to replicate the dominance of our run game last season or we are DOA.

The Bears? Where QB's and WR's go to die?

Well we've dogged on Joe Person for years and he's been pretty much the only constant around here. Just saying keep expectations low.

Hope to see you get that restored.

Of course it's a crapshoot to find a truly elite QB. But we don't even need that to be competitive or successful. Our two best long term starters in 3 decades of existence were both flawed yet productive passers and each led us to a Super Bowl. Hell Jake Delhomme in the year where his arm went off a cliff and we had to start Matt Moore for a couple spells we had a superior passing offense than anything we've seen under Bryce Young the last 3 years. We're still trying to crack the top 25. All I'm saying is this is not the 2023 Panthers by any means. The cupboards are not bare. We are not working with scraps. We have invested through the nose to build up the roster and the trenches on both sides of the ball. We've also added multiple first and second day pass catchers in the draft. If a QB can't succeed here they are cooked.

Some of those tougher matchups we've been going back and forth on definitely look more ideal at home. But if that leak is legit a bye week so early is the last thing we need especially given our slow starts the last few years.

We're about as far removed from lower level pieces as you can get. In OL spending we lead the league and are ahead of the next team the Eagles by a cool $11 million.

He's gone that's that no hate for the guy. There is a realistic probability we end up with someone that is either a push in comparison or possibly worse. It's better to prepare for the possibility in case.

It would obviously be incredible if Brooks came back and just ran away with the job on his opportunities like Rico Dowdle did last year. But any Panthers fan that has been around the block knows better than to go ahead and make plans for that. Brooks has missed a ton of not just playing time but meaningful early career growth in a league that has increasingly devalued the position from an investment standpoint beyond one or two superstars. There's really not any comparison to look back on that lines up with the current iteration of the league at least not favorably. The key thing that this RB room has going for them is our investment in the OL. The highest paid OL in the league two years in a row paired with our staff should make it easier for just about any RB to get into open running lanes. But that is also anything but a given considering our OL was largely middle of the pack last year. In the end it might all be a moot point anyways if we again struggle to establish a viable passing attack.

Home opener against the Saints would have been nice. But we opened the season against them in New Orleans two years ago and got taken to the woodshed. I'm alright with this. It will tell us exactly who our head coach is and what the culture of this team is if there is any. If we faceplant stick a fork in em'.

I view it the other way. NFL is giving the Panthers the opportunity to exact some much needed revenge. I want to see our defense tee off on Caleb Williams.

Also.......

You can't say how much you appreciated Cam Newton and respect the adversity he overcame and what he meant to this franchise and then turn around and try to compare the ignorance he encountered even after having one of the most prolific rookie seasons at that time to Bryce Young being expected to actually play like a #1 pick and not get laughed out of the room.

In terms of what it will take in my view for Bryce to be worthy of an extension making him one of the highest paid QB's in the league. I will quote Bill Parcells "He better walk on water". The 2026 Panthers will need to consistently win because of Bryce Young not in spite of him. Just being decent is off the menu.

He doesn't have the physical tools to make a jump to the 15th best QB in the league. I don't like it either but the situation is the situation. Furthermore for us to navigate the upcoming schedule of opponents for 2026 which right now looks pretty tough we will need a really stout run game. Last year our season was kaput without Rico Dowdle going on a tear. It certainly wasn't our QB that did the heavy lifting. We had the division in front of us and he got swept and outplayed by a 2nd round rookie.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/table/passing/sort/yardsPerPassAttempt/dir/desc Bryce Young was an eyelash above Spencer Rattler in yards per pass attempt. That's not middle of the pack sir. That's not even poverty. That's you need a new QB.

Yeah I'm calling shenanigans on this. I get why people want this to be true but the truth is plainly right in front of us. Scott Fitterer was a god awful GM but at the end of the day the same guy that hired him gave Matt Rhule generational wealth because his wife made some tasty meatballs. The whole trade up to #1 reeked of David Tepper's desperation and his need to be in the headlines. He had mentioned that he spoke to Bryce months before the draft and directly intimated that he would like Bryce to be a Panther. And who was it that held a press conference where he did virtually 98% of the talking after firing Reich? I legitimately don't understand how one can come to a conclusion that the entire Bryce Young debacle was all Scott Fitterer. I mean one would have had to have recently had a stroke or some kind of brain injury to even begin to rationalize such. Not trying to be a dick but cmon.... If it was all Scott Fitterer then why did we spend two straight years after 2023 making absolutely no effort to bring in any competition in the QB room? Andy Dalton? Jack Plummer? And furthermore at the end of the day Dan Morgan is the GM because no other serious candidates were interested in the job. And why is that exactly? Hmmmmmm. And if Fitterer was the architect of the trade up and selection of Bryce Young and the Tepper's were just a couple of poor schlubs taken for a ride does hiring Scott Fitterer's right hand man and best friend sound like a well laid plan? None of this is even mentioning the fact that the 2024 draft was basically like Scott Fitterer never left. Yet people still aren't getting it? This place is always amusing. That's what keeps bringing me back.

I mean....no lies detected. See above. We have traded a fortune to draft a guy #1 overall that people have lowered standards for to the point that not playing like Jimmy Clausen and looking like a poor man's Kyle Allen occasionally is worthy of a contract extension making him one of the highest paid QB's in the league. That is cope on steroids.

The video has only been up 2 hours and if you read the comments you'll think you're on the carolinahuddle.

At least the Lakers got swept out of the playoffs again.

Moton saying he could continue playing for several more years is what anyone in his shoes would say knowing how many millions he stands to make in the coming years. Not going to read into it any more than that.

Darnold threw for over 1k more yards than Bryce last year and he had one less pass attempt than BY. Process that. Darnold's failures were all mental. Physically he's one of the most gifted QB's in the league. If Bryce were that and not the smallest starting QB in the NFL with very limited physical traits most Panthers fans would be significantly more optimistic even after what we gave up to acquire him. But that's unfortunately not the reality that we exist within.