frankw

It's probably time we talk about this. Yes he can be elusive scrambling at times. But as of lately Bryce has been moreso outright bailing on pockets and in doing so killing plays that might have worked had he stepped up into the pocket. And his reluctance or inability to do so has made it so defenses have begun keying in on that. It's all on the tape and you can be rest assured if we do get into the playoffs whatever team we face is going to follow the same gameplan the Saints and Seahawks followed.

Saints and Falcons are starting to figure it out. The Bucs while they are inconsistent are still a talented roster and honestly the last thing we should want is for them to fire Bowles and upgrade. I don't envision this division being a cakewalk next year and we certainly aren't likely to just stumble our way into favorable scenarios again. If we sit on our hands and run it back with this QB room I could see us being lucky to win 4 or 5 games again.

We went from people comparing Bryce Young to generational hall of fame athletes across different sports before his name was even called on draft night to now 44 games into his career trying to justify and blame anyone else on the team for his absolutely pathetic passing performance against a playoff team with the division and a playoff spot on the line.

You can add more skill to the receiving core you can draft Ladd McConkey instead of Xavier Legette but at the end of the day they can't throw themselves the ball too. Right now it's like Jimmy Clausen with 89. You can have a dog out there at receiver and still have a pitiful passing offense more often than not. If the coaches have been looking at the film throughout this season and haven't figured that out then it really doesn't matter who we add next year.

I think most rational observers who aren't invested in propping up Bryce Young at all costs would agree that you would be hard pressed to find another #1 pick that has been afforded this long of a leash. It is absolutely about the investment at this point. Not what is best for the team.

I do agree the Panthers should curb the incessant need to draft players based on local proximity. Much like with how they approached the selection with Bryce Young it's like they value marketability way too much instead of focusing entirely on drafting the best football player.

Makes it even more insulting that we cannot at all rule out that our FO will try and run it back with him and Andy Dalton next year.

I'm iffy on Canales. But that bluntness is welcomed.

Odds are it will probably will follow the usual pattern from this season. Squeak by the Bucs then go to the playoffs and get completely smoked.

Tillman and Norman were good but it was short lived. Chris Gamble quietly did his thing and largely held his own for a long time. He did play in a different era though. Maybe Jaycee should call him up and pick his brain. Either way. We need guys like that again. I do think Mike Jackson all things considered has been quite impressive.

Jaycee is a player who is easy to root for. Local roots. Good for the locker room. Certainly talented. But unfortunately things go beyond just being a physical corner. Maybe these awful perfomances from our offense are wearing him down. In that regard I cannot say I blame him. These guys are human after all. Regardless he isn't worth the contract we gave him. It is what it is.

I don't honestly think it mattered which QB we drafted at that point in time because Matt Rhule made it abundantly clear he wanted no parts of attempting to develop a rookie QB. He fed Corral to the wolves that preseason.

There is no timeline where Bryce Young will ever be a top 7-10 QB. He has virtually no physical tools and he needs elite talent and perfect conditions across the board AND the other team falling flat on their face for him to have a "career day". There's just no valid reason to continue to afford a QB with 44 career games this many excuses. Never seen anything like it. Even the Kyle Allen mania was a brief blip on the radar. It seems like some people here will be thrilled if he is sinking our salary cap on a new contract extension and still playing the same way. Makes absolutely no sense but it's where we're at. Can't reason with that. Sheer lunacy.

In general I have been indifferent to you despite the Patriots fan stuff and generally flaunting your wealth but this bit is not hitting the mark and it isn't you. Besides. Looking down on other fans and basically blaming them for our woes to me definitively fits the bill of "beta" behavior more than anything else here. This is not a perennial contender. Nobody needs to be going around with their chest out drawing lines in the sand. Give it a rest or take a break.

I think we all agree Xavier Legette leaves A LOT to be desired on the football field. We also agree that Canales is certainly with faults on his own on multiple fronts. That being said. Some folks are very unnecessarily going into overdrive to spin a #1 pick who just happens to be the most undersized QB in the league (yes he is shorter than Kyler Murray let's just be real here) finishing with the lowest single game passing yardage per 24 attempts since all the way back to 1980. Legitimately if some of you ARE NOT on Tepper's payroll you should be.