frankw

Dan sure didn't make any changes to the draft scouts he's had two full years to do so. Also let's not act as if Dan was a glorified secretary before he was given the keys he was the #2 guy cmon.

50 3PA just to blowout the Knicks bench lol

I mean XL Mingo and TMJ are all basically the same WR and two of those were before Canales so it sounds to me like a Dan Morgan problem.

https://www.espn.com/nba/stats/team/_/sort/avgThreePointFieldGoalsAttempted I think the fanbase due to our hunger for .500 has overrated Charles Lee a good bit. Honestly we saw more complete development offensively under James Borrego.

We're definitely not going to get the benefit of the whistle anytime soon. Teams have certainly been getting more physical with us since that first Pistons loss. We responded with many upcoming wins by playing very physical basketball ourselves. That's what it's going to take. If it means some fouls along the way so be it but the team has to set the tone. But either way we need more offense closer to the rim. We're right there with GS for most 3PA. And the Warriors are also backing their way into a play in game. We shouldn't be wanting to emulate that.

It was always going to happen sooner or later. Especially heading into the playoffs. Coaching staff has to find a way to develop a complete offense or we need to look elsewhere.

Yeah from a scouting standpoint we absolutely need to change gears to prioritizing hands and route running. If there was ever a time to trade back this is the draft to do it I agree. That should be firmly on the table. But don't take a deal just to take one. I like where you're heading regarding addressing the WR position and the prospects. It just needs to be done so intelligently not reactively. We must begin operating like other competent franchises regarding the draft going forward. XL is a 50/50 situation right now. He either gets his head in the game or he doesn't. I've said all along we should look to add a WR I just in no way see it as a first round or nothing situation that's just absurd. We'll see what happens though.

Knicks on the road tonight. I'd have to imagine they're looking for a little revenge.

Things like this happen everyday. We live in a social media driven society where loyalty is a foreign concept.

If you draft a guy who is healthy and has no concerns about that whatsoever and he goes out and tears his ACL in his first few games in the regular season on a physical play that's a freak accident. But when you trade up to draft an RB who is already rehabbing from a recent ACL tear and he spends the next several months continuing his rehab only to tear the same ACL again after less than a handful of regular season carries in a non contact circumstance that is no freak accident. That is a textbook example of why you do not do what we did. Particularly for what is now a plug and play position. And when you have the highest paid OL in the league over the next two years. None of that makes any logical sense. Legitimately it is and was some Scott Fitterer type foolishness. Now as for XL. The guy has not been committed to his craft. I think anyone with eyes on the situation can and would recognize that. However the warning signs were there. One season of legit production raw prospect that we knew would take time to develop etc. But Morgan and Bryce Young's own father were very high on him. I think in some capacity the reality of our limitation at QB is entering into the equation. Even TMac got a lot of flak over the course of his rookie season for not being able to haul in all of Bryce's passes. At the end of the day our fourth year QB also needs to do his part to maximize the talent we have available. As far as this year. Again. WR round 1 boils down to where are we going to get the touches for the rookie? That would require eating into not only our 8th overall picks touches but also our #2 WR whom oh yeah by the way was UNDRAFTED. I am happy to discuss WR prospects here. I was thrilled we invested what we did last year in TMac because it needed to be done and it made sense from all angles. But nowhere is it written in stone that you cannot draft a good or great WR outside of the first round. Except in the Panthers building apparently. That is not a good reflection on our scouts and front office let me tell ya. Because there's no way on this earth we are going to get back to relevancy and legitimate contender status if we can't pick some gems in the later rounds. Simple and plain.

Then Dan Morgan should be on the hot seat. Wasting a first and second rounder in a pivotal year is unforgivable.

The issue is the predictability of it all in a Bryce Young led offense. In 4th down attempts the Jets were at 41 and we were at 40. And we were 4th in conversation %. We were 25th in the league in 3rd down conversion because we faced so many 3rd and longs in part due to playcalling on 1st and 2nd down but more largely due to the limitations that cannot be overcome. And people want us to spend another 1st rounder on WR as if it is going to magically give Bryce physical talent he will never possess. It's a shame we cut off our own nose just to put ourselves in this frustrating predicament.

The Panthers 1st pick should be about maximum value and immediate impact. That would be either S LB OT or DL. We also have a looming catastrophe at C if anyone goes down to injury. Legitimately this should be talked about more idk how some of you have completely erased the sight of Matt Paradis and Pat Elflein from your memory banks. There's no reason we cannot come out of this draft addressing virtually all of the above in some capacity. That is how Morgan and Tillis will earn their salary.

Brother you've been WR driven for going on almost two decades now. No need for us to discuss further.

Logically yes. Boston has the right balance though. Jalen Brown is #2 in the paint and their best shooters are 17th and 19th. While our best shooters are #1 and #2 and we have one player in the top 50 for points in the paint. And my understanding looking at the information I just referenced is we were basically at the exact same paint percentage last year in Charles Lee's offense. At the end of the day we either want to compete for a playoff series winner and the finals or we just want to stumble our way to another play in. We've already done that with James Borrego.