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It will most likely happen given our circumstances. But it's gotten us into murky waters in the past. Specifically we talked often about being in "cap hell" due to so many restructures from Hurney once upon a time. For myself I'll accept it if we are using the savings to assemble a dominant young defense. I want a complete team again. If we use it to continue doubling down on the offense to prop up one player eventually everyone involved is going to see themselves out of a job.

Really don't understand why this conversation is so contentious or why people are in their feelings over it. The possibility of it actually happening is minimal at best. And besides. The Panthers have already tried introducing a malcontent WR that another team was eager to move on from into the locker room. It's the last thing we need at this point in time.

Clarification. For 2026 so far we are actually now third in OL salary cap at 89.6 million. Still way too much given our offensive output.

Certainly the situation with Icky is the complete opposite of ideal. In a perfect world we would all love to have a very promising young Tackle on the roster to develop or even a wily veteran. But reality isn't that cut and dry. We have the highest amount of salary cap dedicated to the OL in the league. We had a bottom 5 passing offense last year. And to be abundantly clear. I am one who was fully on board with diverting assets more to the offense to change gears so to speak. The FO seemed to agree. I would hope wise fans who have seen the highs and lows of this franchise going back 25 years or more would agree that was a miscalculation. Although the years before Tepper were up and down we had generational talent on our defenses and that pushed us over the hump a few times. We need to get back to that and begin building a ferocious defense again. And we also need to just make some basic and realistic observations. We invested a King's ransom in Bryce Young. He does not and will not have elite pieces across every position along the offense especially with us now picking up his option and having many needs. Cam Newton had this franchise competing for the division and playoffs with the likes of Byron Bell and Nate Chandler at opposite ends of the oline. And that was when the NFC South was much more competitive.

I would kick the tires on Chubb but we have no business chasing aging receivers who are also scumbags.

I think most people like XL from a personal standpoint. I don't think he's stupid either. Although if we are being realistic he is lacking in football IQ at this point in time and it cannot be disputed that he has not taken working on his craft seriously at all times given the body of work on the field. It speaks for itself. I myself have defended him at times given the circumstances of our QB room. But he is now in his third year and 25 years old. We are not in a position as a franchise to go around babying anyone especially first round draft picks. He needs to take his position and his football career seriously or he is going to end up selling used cars somewhere. I hope he realizes this and takes an extended break from social media because that mess certainly isn't going to increase his net worth if he ends up out of the league. And these hanger on types will disappear quick too once that money dries up and it surely will eventually. We'll see how he responds.

I think the Bevell hire has more to do with adding actual veteran head coaching experience to the staff than anything else. But I do wholeheartedly agree that the obsession in general with Seattle needs to come to an end. I mean we plucked the one guy there to be our GM who turned out to be our worst GM in franchise history in just a few short years and that's really saying something given our history there. Clearly trying to mimick Seattle in any way has not been productive. As far as Idzik many of us have asked the same question but at this point in time it doesn't really matter anymore because Canales is either going to lead this franchise to a winning record or he will be shown the door.

At the end of the day we're all holding our breath in anticipation waiting to see if Bryce Young will look and play horribly to begin his fourth season just as he has in his first three seasons. No cherry picking obscure metrics or screaming about haters will change that.

Cam seems to be eager to put the onus moreso on himself and that speaks to his personal growth as a man. He even mentions that maybe he was too hyperfocused on wins and losses which is crazy to consider when you account for the fact that our culture was so pitiful when he arrived and 89 is supposed to be considered the ultimate competitor. While Steve leans on his unspecified trauma as his reasoning for how he was toward a rookie QB and other people in general which makes no sense whatsoever considering this is the guy who physically attacked his own teammates in his younger years. The only positive if you could consider it so that I'm getting from Steve Smith in this convo is the fact that he is actually willing to speak about it with Cam. But he does not seem to want to recognize what he threw away at that time and the cost to both himself and the franchise.

He certainly seems to have a really good mindset for his age and the circumstances of his career trajectory early on. Here's to hoping he can carve out one of the better long term Panthers WR careers especially considering he was undrafted.

If that's how it went down then I've lost what relatively minimal semblance of respect I had for him as a highly notable player in franchise history. Because that whole situation is what led to him being so outrageously abrasive toward the team and specifically led to the "blood and guts" game in which he went out of his way above and beyond to portray himself as someone who was discarded like trash in the street in a callous manner by the team that drafted him while gleefully embarrassing us. When in reality it was he who wanted out from the jump in the midst of us drafting two of the greatest players in franchise history in consecutive years in Newton and Kuechly. We probably win the Super Bowl if he had kept his head together. I can't look at the guy the same anymore if this is true. Unconscionable selfishness. Stay a Raven.

Absolutely. His team went 4-6 in the final ten games and faltered more than once with the opportunity to take control of the division on their own terms.

Nobody save for one or two idiots actually wants Bryce Young to be a bust. But the blinders and bafflingly low standards people apply for a fourth year #1 pick are both comical and embarrassing. Then you have folks complaining about what they claim is toxicity and then turning right around and being toxic while trying to claim the moral high ground. This is why the huddle will always be entertaining.

Here's the real data.

There's a hell of a lot of irony in folks who have spent years simping for their guy Bryce whailing about people being homers over Howell because of UNC.