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Either of these teams will get absolutely abused by the Patriots.

The only plus for the Texans right now is they are going up against Aaron Rodgers.

Stroud has not looked good at all. But the Texans are still in it because they have invested in other areas. They are 25 out of 32 in offensive line spending compared to the Panthers who are #1 to the detriment of the rest of the roster. Folks are digging in on bashing CJ so hard because they are desperate to compensate for their guy. Honestly cringe.

Stroud does not look dialed in.

Princely is very confident. He even told Tepper on the draft call that he would have to break their pockets in three or four years. Look I love the confidence. I love the attitude. But I don't love any form of blame game for underwhelming if the talk isn't turning into results. Blaming Evero is not moving the needle for me. If he's as good as he thinks he is he will flash regardless. I hope he does.

Lmfao. Bozeman is their center? And I've got folks here trying to convince me that without a doubt Bryce would have defeated the Patriots in place of Herbert. WITH BRADLEY BOZEMAN IN FRONT OF HIM????

Most Panthers fans seem to be in agreement that we could and should upgrade Evero. But I do think there is an aspect that differentiates Princely from Scourton beyond snap counts. Princely got humbled to a degree in his rookie season. Hopefully he takes that to heart appropriately and uses it constructively.

I've already addressed this notion in a previous reply. You are basing your assertion outside reality if you think Bryce would have not only been more successful but defeated the Patriots in place of Herbert. Bryce got blown off the field by that Patriots team with the highest paid OL in the league. We've seen Bryce with an OL that gave up 65 sacks and it resulted in the #1 pick. And that is not a defense of Herbert or arguing he is a great QB in any way. He has physical talent but he has been similar to Darnold early in his career in terms of his very up and down perfomances. However that does not change the fact that they have significantly less invested in the OL than the Panthers.

Right and I think we can have a conversation about that. But even with the scheme he should still be able to muster more than 1.5 sacks right? I mean DJ Johnson played in Evero's scheme too but that didn't stop us from calling him a bust. Scourton didn't seem to have trouble flashing. There can be different things true at one time.

Evero criticism goes without saying but Princely was outspokenly confident before the season and I was all for it but he did not back that up at all. He needs to focus his energy on that.

OT is a big need again unfortunately. But we should weigh all options. Our first round pick should go to the defense unless someone falls.

It amuses me seeing folks post stills of Bryce's offensive line as if the Panthers didn't go out and invest steep resources in the unit to the detriment of the rest of the roster after his rookie season following endless whailing about protecting him. These are also the same folks who will deflect to throwing anyone under the bus when Bryce fails. Highest salary cap % investment to the OL. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/position/offensive-line/_/year/2025/sort/cap_total FYI the Rams are 11th and the Chargers are 16th in this list.

And he'll be 38 next month. Imagine Bryce Young when what little athleticism he has is gone.

Yeah this is nuts. For comparison in Bryce's rookie season our OL gave up 65 sacks. We all know that was one of the worst rookie seasons for a QB in decades. We know what Bryce looks like under duress and it is anything but pretty. In contrast Herbert with 66 sacks on the season had a year roughly in line with Bryce's best in 2025. And he had a significantly better completion percentage. There's no need for these irrational cope takes about Bryce producing on the Chargers. Reality says they would have been lucky to win 1 or 2 games with Bryce. Jim Harbaugh probably would have lost his mind.

The tush push is probably going to be gone after this year. It's one of those plays where if it's used against you then you despise it but if you're a team who can utilize it to perfection with the right personnel you're ecstatic. Part of me would certainly like to be the latter again.