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Brother. You are wholly confusing comparing situations and applying actual standards like most other franchises do like simply getting into a playoff series and winning at least 1 or 2 series games with praising. Nobody is praising the Hawks. Nobody is praising the Magic. Nobody here likes those teams. But reality is reality. The Hawks like other franchises have traded players fired coaches etc but they can still win a couple playoff games. How is that not the bare floor for you or anyone else? What are we doing here if it isn't? We've seen eye to eye on many things over the years. But you are in the camp on the Hornets where you are emotionally attached to LaMelo where you feel the need to carry his water like he's got that juice. That's cool that you feel that way. It's your prerogative. But I differ from that viewpoint entirely. If he had that juice we would not have gotten wiped off the court in 2 play in games with 2 different coaching staffs and rosters. if people don't like hearing that well I'm sorry but how the hell is this team ever going to get better and ultimately go anywhere in the postseason if we just blindly pat them on the back for getting their asses whooped before they actually even get into the real playoffs? There seem to be some Bryce Young level standards being applied here. That's wild to me. But to each his own.

They're both very talented. In the long run I think not getting the award will make Kon even better.

Unfortunately for the Hornets the Hawks have won more playoff series games in one postseason than we have in 11 years. Probably not the best position to be mocking others.

I don't think there are enough hallucinogens in the world.

Are there some magic beans sitting around somewhere that can give him elite physical tools overnight?

Overall I liked what Morgan had to say in both interviews. He clearly is very invested and connected/passionate about his job with this franchise. I just really hope he does not end up hinging all that on hitching himself to an albatross QB contract for a #1 pick who does not display high end or elite production.

Donated. Best wishes to you and your family.

I like what Freeling brings to the table all around. If he is willing to put in the work he has an opportunity to be one of the better Tackles in the league down the line. Hunter Brazzell and Hecht are all premium additions but development from our staff are the key to unlocking them. Hopefully Lee and Wheatley will provide much needed additional depth to our secondary. Beyond that it's important not to get too caught up in draft grades. Many drafts over the years that turned out to be really good were not fawned over with praise. While some that were ended up being historical duds. Panthers fans ought to know this as well as anyone. In conclusion...

Crazy that the Magic are up two games on a team that has bullied us for a year now. Hornets front office needs to take some notes.

I don't know when acknowledging reality became complaining but I guess that's a thing on Panthers reddit or something.

If we are talking strictly production Bryce Young is so far down the totem pole he moves the ball at a historically low rate. You'll only find a handful of QB's over the last half century who moved the ball less. Bryce Young is at 6 yards per attempt for his career which is only higher than: Frank Tripucka - 5.9 Kyle Boller - 5.9 Rick Mirer - 5.9 Mike Phipps - 5.8 Joey Harrington - 5.8 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_yds_per_att_career.htm

In 2025 Sam Darnold had over 1k more passing yards than Bryce Young on 1 less pass attempt. Repeat that to yourself several times and let it sink in. I absolutely love it when people come on here and invoke Sam Darnold like some gotcha. Darnold is the physical prototype for what anyone needs in a franchise QB. All the physical tools. Few people thought he would put it all together on the mental side of the position. He used to make some of the worst decisions you would ever see. At times in the past he made up for that with absurd throws and athleticism. But make no mistake whatsoever no matter how you feel about our starting QB. Bryce Young is a completely opposite conundrum. He lacks virtually any and all physical tools and athleticism and his elite processing is really mediocre at best on a good day and horrific on a bad day. These are realities people should have already been addressing instead of quadrupling down in year four.

I enjoyed reading this thread and the usual banter that follows. The only silver lining I can identify right now is we do actually have a couple of young QB's behind him and we do have a nice roster on both sides of the ball built around the most important position. So if the team overall shows some promise but we still falter largely due to a lack of consistent passing output (again) hopefully the decision makers can be free to make the best decision for the team going forward after the conclusion of this upcoming season.

I think the overwhelming majority of people like that are the newer younger fans. The insecurity is sad.

Flagg was always going to be ROY. The entire thing was orchestrated by the NBA in the first place. It didn't help that Kon was honestly quite awful down the final stretch. Here's to hoping he has a chip on his shoulder and uses it as extra motivation going forward. We're certainly going to need that.