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Yes I agree. At least 25 TD's but really want to see 30 or more and want to see ints at a very minimal. Like to see comp percentage at least 64 but prefer closer to 67% and I want to see some aggressive shots downfield deep. I expect to see wins and not so damn conservative all the time in every situation. I expect him to be a vocal leader and motivate his offense. If he can't do all that then time to move on simple as that.

A part of me what's to take a chance on Lance and then another part of me sees big bust written on him.

I'm with you. I think we need one of these two absolute freak o-lineman who I feel like may be monsters for years to come in protecting whatever QB we find that works and sticks

I wish I could say I have confidence Darnold will be solid but I do not. I think quote the opposite but I have to remain optimistic and at least support and cheer him on hoping he finds his mojo again and can be a good pro. My guess is it may not happen but we aren't out too much of it does not and then have next year for QB draft. I am not confident he will be good but he has my full support and I hope he will be.

Deshaun "Happy Ending" Watson would probably do better in Texas as I do believe the massage parlor scene would be more vast and stronger in the state of Texas. I don't know if he is innocent or guilty band don't give a damn anymore. All I care about is this team not giving up three first rounders and an impact player for him. He possible interest in slapping legit massage therapists and personal trainers with his weiner may have saved us from way overpaying for him thankfully. Of course I'm sure the tinderbox mafia isn't too happy as I believe most of them wanted to give up the entire franchise for him.

I don't see us getting more than a 6th if a team is interested. Or if player for player probably just a on the bubble player who may have been cut by a team anyhow. I cant see how any team would give up much espey since they know we will probably release him if we are unable to find a trade partner.

He seems like a good dude both on and off he field. Only thing that scares me is his age at this point. I would definitely consider a year contract on the cheap if he is healthy and open to it.

If he was signed cheap enough we may just be throwing a few turds at the wall to see what sticks.

Could be much worse. We could have given up three first rounders and an impact player for Deshaun "Happy Ending" Watson as so many on here insisted must be done. Not saying I love the idea of Darnold but sure beats giving up the farm and setting the franchise back years for oke player who may or may not have a serious mental problem and may be suspended for a long time in the near future.

That's a tough call. I'd love 1st OT but 4th QB would make me at least seriously consider. If the 4th QB has potential to develop, a solid attitude and the mentality to lead I'd say you would almost have to take the QB. If any doubts then I'd say 1st OT. Glad I'm not making that decision as picking a 4th best QB and making a failed pick could cost someone's job ultimately. If I think I could develop that 4th QB I would probably roll the dice though but I cant have any doubts in the players mental capacity.

I will be happy with BPA. I honestly don't want us to settle and reach for a QB that we truly didn't want as our first couple choices. Hell, I'd rather just get rid of Teddy and sign a free agent or draft a late round QB and roll with what we have while enjoying an 8th pick BPA and getting ready to take a QB high next year.

His opinion of Cam is completely wrong and BS but that isn't trolling I don't guess. He can't help it his opinion is utter crap.

I truly don't think the dude was going based off color. Granted I think his opinion is crap but shouldn't we also not assume certain thingsbwity zero basis other than "the QB's he didn't like were a certain color". I see where you are coming from but at the same time it welcomes certain tinderbox boy goof balls to get on their soap boxes and start their drunken late night rants. If I say Pickles, Ryan Leaf, Sam Darnold and Kirk Cousins all suck I may truly believe it. It may or may not be the case and you may or may not agree but the fact that all of them are of a certain race does not mean I'm crapping on them because of their race. You see things how you like it's cool but I will call it as I see it in my own opinion since some others are so quick to every chance they get.

Yeah that is very rational and makes so very much sense. Ban the dude because his opinion is different than yours. I don't agree with his take either but I thought on a message board you debated as was the whole point? Let's ban anyone that may have thoughts different than ours, great idea!

What if by some chance this is just the way the chips fell with his opinion and color had nothing to do with it? Pretty much wrecks your agenda doesn't it. I don't agree with his assessment at all but what if that was simply his opinion and had nothing at all to do with what you are implying? You should lock the thread and call your little buddies in the tinderbox mafia to come save the day.

Why don't you leave the thread then? Is someone keeping you here reading? Unfortunately in life people discuss things we may not want to read or hear but sometimes people have to put their big boy pants on and still try to function without throwing one of their many internet message board cursing drunken fits they always seem to get away with.

Doesn't matter, even if he was guilty it will all disappear when the payoffs start. Money buys you out of most everything like it or not. I don't know if he is innocent or guilty but I do know he isn't worth 3-4 first rounders and an impact player. He should just stay in Houston.

Good god keep that dude for a first. He isn't worth that what so ever.

Act now and buy a bidet then get a jerk mod fleshlight at equal to or lesser value free.

Personally I'm not looking forward to Darnold if we get him. I don't see anything amazingly special and I have a feeling almost a sense of Teddy 2.0. I'd just rather roll with what we have and save the draft pick. Hell, let PJ or Will Grier play lots this season or see if a QB is there at 8 who has any potential or brain power to be developed. If you don't feel that way take a good offensive lineman or another too player at a position and see what happens this season while obviously playing for a higher draft pick and potential QB of future next season.

I think your operative word here is "Jerk Mod". You probably don't agree with one of their political opinions hence they remove some of your crap. It works that way around here if you haven't noticed. Case in point,see a couple of the tinder box mafia boys and watch them abuse other members here in posts yet watch their posts never be deleted or them never banned. Site is good for news but the Mods aren't too kosher or good for that matter. But what the heck? Plexico Burress? I don't get the joke behind that one so I hate I missed it.

Oh god here we go........Do you also get tired of them mentioning "unathletic white guy" for white QB's as well? I mean by all means let's be consistent here and admit these crap stereotypes exist on all levels but I'm probably bad for mentioning the latter correct? That's how this game works isn't it? Josh Allen I think was criticized for the same thing recently wasn't he? As well as a slew of other QB's but the ones we could also name don't quote fit the narrative agenda we are trying to push does it? Let's just bury our heads in the sand and pretend the other guys don't exist then huh.

I already gave you mine. Run mouth less and read more. Good day!

Hanging in there with Thomas Davis through all the injuries was BOLD in a good way. Trading for Shawn "Drop The Chalupa" Gilbert was BOLD in a very bad way.

Being a father can easily be a negative if the father is abusive (physically, mentally, sexually), absent, or just an overall jackass. I doubt Cam is any of those as he was a great community guy while here and a solid role model for kids everywhere. You however have a brief history of judging everyone's backgrounds, or logic pretty quick if it does not completely agree with your own politics. I suggest you check out and spend lots of time in the tinder box with the tinderbox mafia. That area would be more your schtick I do believe. I do agree with you if you are implying that there is not a damn thing wrong with Cam as a community leader and role model but you seem to be often on the attack of anyone who does not follow your exact beliefs so I say you fit right in with those tinderbox boys and you have my vote for Nozzle Of The Week congrats ole' chap.