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I think they were both the same play. The false start f'd it up, so they ran it again later. Pretty sure it was a trick play. Pulled Bryce for the QB sneak, everybody in the stadium knows it's a sneak, but then it's not a sneak. Play doesn't work if you leave Bryce in. Andy Dalton was the sales pitch.

This offense is garbage

This does not affect our game tonight since the Steelers/Browns are on at 8 on ABC, correct?

That Greg Little trade though... In all seriousness, it's so hard to judge one way or the other because you just don't know which players Rhule said, "get this guy here no matter what." We just don't know. Prior to this offseason, it's just too muddy from our persepective.

Isn't Dan Morgan in charge of the pro scouting side of things? Fitt = draft. Morgan = FA?

Kinda wished you used something other than a Howell video for this post, because I can't tell if it's praise for JT for this video due to your biases. (Not disagreeing about JT's biases though. He definitely gives guys more slack if he likes them.)

He has. In all videos this season, starting in preseason. He's done either 2 or 3 bryce young videos including preseason. Idk about Vikings last year. I pulled up one game and started watching it, but about 5 seconds in, I realized i didn't care enough to put the time into to research it.

It wasnt the same mistake twice though. Was it the same route? Yes. Was it basically the same position on the field? Yes. But completely, entirely different circumstances. Both were mistakes, but they weren't the same mistake twice, unless you just mean "threw an int" broadly.

He has studied more film professionally than any person on this site. Bust or not, he has LOTS of experience watching and studying film. Far more than almost anything else you will find youtube.

Sail the high seas, arrrrggghhh

1. JT hate, Hates, HATES Adam Thielen. Anyone know why? 2. Seeing the all-22 from the 2nd interception makes it clear he wasn't staring down the receiver, if that wasn't obvious from the game film. 3. TMJ sucks. Is he just lazy? Was that 2 deep routes where he was "overthrown" because he didn't go full speed on his entire route?

I agree. I've watched enough JT to know this is middle field closed. TMJ's route should have never even been looked at. Better yet, pre-snap TMJ should have been checked out of that route. Not sure who's job that would have been.

It looks like Burns gave up the edge to go for the tackle, trying to play hero. Shaq had the gap, Burns didn't need to give up the edge. Straight up, he didn't do his job. Honestly, he reacted too quick and opened up the outside.

I noticed this quite a bit as well. That said when the play break down and there is a receiver down field with the mailbox flag up, gotta see those.

If we clean up the turnovers, the defense looks like its good enough to keep us in games. We don't have the weapons to be a scoring powerhouse yet.

Just a point here, count the defenders in the frame.

In his presser, he was asked a couple times about the ints. He said the safety wasn't at the depth he expected. He later went further and said he read the coverage but, the safety did not have the depth he assumed he would be at. Bryce said it was different than the x's and o's and he should have actually checked before throwing. This sounds like a rookie problem. That's good. I'm not ready to crown Bryce Young and I'm not ready to write him off. I expected to lose today. All the top 10 rookie QB's lost today.

That was play call. I don't know if he was supposed to drop into coverage or spy or designed delayed rush, but it definitely wasn't his choice to not immediately rush the passer.

First pick, safety came flying in from the other side of the field. Safety made a great play. The second pick was dumbfounding. As for his play the last 4 minutes, there is literally no point in throwing to receivers downfield if they are blanketed. I don't think anyone here can say if he was missing downfield targets that were open without the all-22. I don't think it's a good idea to try to force a miracle if it's not there.

Bryce setting the baseline low. Makes it easier to show week over week improvement. 3d chess

Fitts job is dependent on Bryce succeeding, not Burns contract. Good grief people are idiots.

Yep. Unless we win by 30+, I fully expect some people to still find something to be down about. Of course the Burns contract might still be the big talking point for negative nancies.

Everything is in the contracts. It's a poo deal when there are no guaranteed monies, but a lot of fields have contracts like this. For example, I sign contracts everyday that says I dont' get paid if they dont' get paid. Cost of doing business. That said, when there is guaranteed money involved, the team can terminate the contract, but with financial consequences. The player cannot "terminate" the contract, but they can stop working, and again there are financial consequences as well as a non-compete clause - they can't sign another contract in the NFL while still under contract. It is a two way street, just lopsided toward the employer (team), which is typical of employment contracts. Nobody is forced to sign a contract. You can try to negotiate some of these clauses out that favor the team, but you won't. And you won't find another team to do so either in most cases. No trade clauses is an example of something (being traded) that favors the team that players have been able to successfully negotiate out of.

I feel like everybody in this thread is talking about a completely different topic than OP.

Wut? Am I missing something? With claiming Matt Corral, the Patriots essentially gained 2 picks, our 3rd and our 4th for free. We didn't lose 3 picks in that trade, no matter which way you slice it. That's some head scratching math.