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PFF - What would it take for Panthers to trade up for #1 pick
Luciu5 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
If you whiff on a pick, you move an asset in the future. Would it suck losing Chinn, Brown, Burns, Horn? Yes. But you can get a haul for a single guy. Turns into a bit of a rebuild scenario. If you never try, you will never succeed. You have to shoot your shot. No year is perfect. I believe this year is our best year. I see a lot of 9-8, 10-7 years in the future otherwise, with no shot at a top QB. Time to stop the QB carousel for a few years at the very least. -
PFF - What would it take for Panthers to trade up for #1 pick
Luciu5 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
49ers disagree. They probably aren't going to the super bowl anytime soon....but they dont' suck. -
PFF - What would it take for Panthers to trade up for #1 pick
Luciu5 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Fitt whiffs, he's out of a job. I agree with this. BUUUT, I'm not against going to 1 if our FO sees a franchise QB in this draft. I trust them to do their jobs and be certain. And if not, they all get fired. So we either celebrate the wins or celebrate the house cleaning. Win, win! Amirite? -
PFF - What would it take for Panthers to trade up for #1 pick
Luciu5 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
We've sucked for the past how many years? What difference does it make? At BEST we will be mediocre with any other possible options. Even with Rodgers, we're likely one and done in the playoffs every year. If Super Bowl is the goal, you do this deal. If Andrew Luck or Lawrence is on the board, nobody is trading out the #1 spot. It would take -extreme- luck to be in a position to trade up to #1 pick, the #1 pick be available to be traded, AND generational QB available. It's not likely to happen in our lifetimes. -
The problem they have is Saquan Barkley is up for a contract too. They can't tag them both and Barkley wants $16 million per. Do you keep your QB or do you keep the RB that your QB is reliant on? I don't see them keeping both without a deal getting done here in the next couple weeks, and it seems like neither is worth keeping for the money they each want.
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He pretty much has until the legal tampering period begins. Right now, he's the only QB on the market and available. Once free agency begins, he loses whatever advantage he has from the early availability - for whatever that's worth. I imagine a few people will kick the tires on him, but I'd be a little surprised who, if anyone, pulls the trigger. You'd have to imagine at least some teams going the vet route will want to know about the Aaron Rodgers situation first before making a decision.
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I know the Green Bay Packers are an old and storied franchsise, but Green Bay, the city....what do you mean by market exactly? https://jokermag.com/smallest-market-teams-nfl/
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Interesting twist regarding Lamar Jackson...
Luciu5 replied to Proudiddy's topic in Carolina Panthers
Okay that makes much more sense. -
If we had beaten Tampa this year, we'd be at 19 this year. You are saying if it wasn't for that one loss, we should be sticking with Sam Darnold?
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Interesting twist regarding Lamar Jackson...
Luciu5 replied to Proudiddy's topic in Carolina Panthers
If that's accurate, then that's just over $22 million/year. I don't think he is worth $40 mil a year, but that does feel low to me. I can't see him going for less than $30 mil avg per year on the open market. -
Of course there are rumors! Ryan Poles would be failing at his job if he didn't make the texans and colts think they could take a QB. It's all about driving up the cost of that #1 pick. Trust me, Chicago is not taking a QB and not trading Fields. Lots and lots of reasons to not trade Fields. Also lots of reasons to make other FO's think you are open to trading him and taking a QB.
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Doesn't take an insider to see this. This fanbase has either PTSD or Stockholm syndrome. All depends on the individual. It would be a shame though if we ended up with another retread QB with this staff.
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He did say "per PFF". In other words, random dude who took quote snippets out of a PFF article or tweet.
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What were we offering for Watson? The deal the Browns did was 3 1sts, a 3rd, and 2 4ths. I'd guess we were in that neighborhood. How many of y'all were okay with that trade for a QB who ended up with a 38.3 QBR in 2022, but don't want to trade similar for the #1 pick?
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Was the scouting revamp before or after the Darnold trade? I don't remember.
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I'd be okay with that, but he's on a media tour saying Carr is perfect for Carolina. No thanks.
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He also gave Duce Staley's official title on here before the team announced it.
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I hear two qb names over and over here for next year. If they maintain their trajectory they aren't falling to 8 or 10. And if we are taking the 3rd or 4th qb next year, and trading up to do so ?? I think I'd rather go to 1 this year. Seems asinine if that is what people are thinking.
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With a Carr and this staff, I could see us drafting next year in the 16-24 range. Or we better be if we are dropping $40 million on a QB. Anyway, how are we getting from 16+ to #1 overall? Especially when 9x out of 10 the #1 pick needs a QB and ain't budging. If we are drafting a QB, if we want to trade up and want our pick of the class, this is the only year to do that. Otherwise we are moving up to 8-10 to grab someone that falls. I really, really do not see us picking in the top 10 next year.
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Why do half of them have a deer in headlights look?
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We use to collect all the db's. Now we collect all the HC's. All your head coaches are belong to us!
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If this coaching staff performs the way we think it will perform, we may not see another top 10 pick again for a long while. A lot easier to get up to 1 or 3 from 9 then it would be from 15-20. If the front office is thinking this way, then they should do whatever to get to 1, even if it means a 3 way trade. I agree CJ Stroud looks like the best in this class. I just don't want to go up to 3 or wherever and get an also ran.
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This is a perfectly normal thing someone would say in 2023.
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She's pregnant you douche.
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Yes. Identifying a QB is obviously hard. We are more likely to miss than hit. I prefer more swings. Is there a correlation with QB1 vs 2 vs 3 etc off the board with success? Honest question, idk, but it doesn't feel that way based off recent memory. Strictly talking about top 10 qbs, which it's pretty rare for more than 3 going top 10.