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Just a point here, count the defenders in the frame.

In his presser, he was asked a couple times about the ints. He said the safety wasn't at the depth he expected. He later went further and said he read the coverage but, the safety did not have the depth he assumed he would be at. Bryce said it was different than the x's and o's and he should have actually checked before throwing. This sounds like a rookie problem. That's good. I'm not ready to crown Bryce Young and I'm not ready to write him off. I expected to lose today. All the top 10 rookie QB's lost today.

That was play call. I don't know if he was supposed to drop into coverage or spy or designed delayed rush, but it definitely wasn't his choice to not immediately rush the passer.

First pick, safety came flying in from the other side of the field. Safety made a great play. The second pick was dumbfounding. As for his play the last 4 minutes, there is literally no point in throwing to receivers downfield if they are blanketed. I don't think anyone here can say if he was missing downfield targets that were open without the all-22. I don't think it's a good idea to try to force a miracle if it's not there.

Bryce setting the baseline low. Makes it easier to show week over week improvement. 3d chess

Fitts job is dependent on Bryce succeeding, not Burns contract. Good grief people are idiots.

Yep. Unless we win by 30+, I fully expect some people to still find something to be down about. Of course the Burns contract might still be the big talking point for negative nancies.

Everything is in the contracts. It's a poo deal when there are no guaranteed monies, but a lot of fields have contracts like this. For example, I sign contracts everyday that says I dont' get paid if they dont' get paid. Cost of doing business. That said, when there is guaranteed money involved, the team can terminate the contract, but with financial consequences. The player cannot "terminate" the contract, but they can stop working, and again there are financial consequences as well as a non-compete clause - they can't sign another contract in the NFL while still under contract. It is a two way street, just lopsided toward the employer (team), which is typical of employment contracts. Nobody is forced to sign a contract. You can try to negotiate some of these clauses out that favor the team, but you won't. And you won't find another team to do so either in most cases. No trade clauses is an example of something (being traded) that favors the team that players have been able to successfully negotiate out of.

I feel like everybody in this thread is talking about a completely different topic than OP.

Wut? Am I missing something? With claiming Matt Corral, the Patriots essentially gained 2 picks, our 3rd and our 4th for free. We didn't lose 3 picks in that trade, no matter which way you slice it. That's some head scratching math.

Taking the high road in public is the right thing to do, and doesn't matter at all. Behind closed doors, people in the building knows what's what. Maybe that is Fitterer, maybe it's Rhule, maybe it's Tepper making the picks. Everyone in those meetings knows who was making each pick, where there were disagreements and when people deferred and who was overruled entirely. They all know, and there is absolutely 0 reason to air whatever laundry at a press conference. Good leaders take responsibilty. They don't throw people under the bus in public.

We had this same situation 2 or 3 years ago. They will get swapped out for other positions.

Well that answers my second question from the other thread. It also says that 32 of 32 teams also think our depth was trash.

I am not feeling whelmed. Also curious which if any of our cuts were picked up by someone else. I haven't seen anything.

He's listed as nickel on the "official" depth chart, not safety. So technically a CB.

The initial 53 is perplexing but I'm not butt hurt over the guys we cut. They were mostly all trash. But my god the lack of CB's and Dline is concerning. I'm sure we will fill out the roster properly, but will these new guys be any better than what we had?

Too bad about Zonovan Knight. The kid is the son of one of Julius Peppers friends from back in Bailey, NC.

Possibly. Based on the current (meaningless) depth chart, he is way, way down on the list of LB's. I've seen good things from him last year and in preseason, I'm just not sure on his consistency. Considering he is going into year 2, I'd think they would keep him, give him a year under the new coaching staff and one more offseason.

His wording was weird... He basically said Henderson+5th rounder = shitty TE + 3rd rounder. Nothing about this trade screams "worst trade of all time". The trade was meh at worst.

Why? He's gonna get hit eventually. Things are going to go south sometimes and he needs to be able to cope when it does. Preseason seems like a better time to put your starting QB in bad situations than waiting for it to actually happen. Just like children, players shouldn't be coddled. Let them experience what the real world is like a little bit before the poo is real. I know you are worried about injuries, but you really shouldn't. That poo is gonna happen, so why worry about it? Some time BY is going to get hurt and is going to miss games, just like every other starting QB. 22 of 32 starting QB's missed at least 1 game in the regular season last year.

I feel for Matt Corral. I feel he did well in the pocket, good decision making, good scramble ability, but his accuracy is so goddamn awful. If he could just put the ball in the same zip code as his receivers he wouldn't be a bad qb.

I missed the first game. Forgot about the second game until midway through the second quarter. So I haven't seen starters play at all except some clips of individual plays. This time I got smart and set an alarm.

Shaq looked bad here. Also, JT also made comments nonchantly, regarding the offense, "game planning", "scheming". Definitely sounds to me as if some the plays aren't just vanilla preseason stuff from the Giants, but JT doesn't really come across like that's odd for preseason either.

Yeah, the point is to be negative for the sake of being negative. Subject matter or context doesn't matter. Those people probably have a really miserable life and just need a hug.

This was my thought exactly. Maybe slow down when pissing on your team and you wouldn't get it all over your face.