Luciu5

The internet lacks any nuance. BY actually played good I'd say 90% of his snaps. I went back and watched every play. The 10% that was bad though, was REALLY bad. I'm hard pressed to put blame on him for everything though, like the 2nd int and the time where XL ran the wrong route and it looked like he just sailed the pass. I think I counted 3 or 4 bad throws in the game which were on BY. The fumble is 100% on him. That is like the exact same situation as in the Dallas game last year. Same with the first pick. He didn't see the safety, just like that Atlanta game. There were many passing yards lost due to drops. The Renfrow throw (50/50 Bryce imo but Renfrow had his hands on the ball), Tmac drop, and XL not getting his feet down. Those were all chunk plays. Bryce didn't play bad, just wasn't elite and when he made mistakes, they were colossal mistakes. Honestly, I think we should move on, I don't think he is IT, but too much blame for this game is going his way imo.

Every Canales press conference, if the name Coker came up, the word conditioning also came up. Also, idk if Coker just has that baby face, but his face has a chubbiness to it.

I was never shocked about Ian Thomas. He was a very good blocker. I think most fans couldn't see that. He's definitely a good vet minimum 3rd TE. He was just overpaid here for his skillset.

Panthers - "We extended our second best lineman!" Huddle - "Why the fug would you do that?!?!??!?!?"

I'd love for you to do a film break down and do an alternative analysis. If you disagree with Icege's assessment, I think it would be good to have another view. I'd read your thread if you did that. I'd love for you to show us what you saw.

We traded 1 spot so we have a 5th year option. 1 spot dude. Personally, I get the logic behind wanting the 5th year option on a WR. I don't think hubris has anything to do with it. And it's not like we gave up more than the equivalent of a 7th rounder to move 1 spot. Basically we got a 5th year option on XL for next to nothing. Really not that big of a deal.

I saw a Panthers/Browns preview from CBS. 10 min long youtube video....7 mins discussing the browns, 2:30 mins discussing Panthers, :30 outro.

This was an excellent watch. I can't believe I watched the whole thing.

For anyone in this thread mentioning Tepper, owners, or billionaires, they really have nothing to do with this. More guaranteed money doesn't mean the owners pay more. It just means, if they get cut we get dead cap and someone else gets paid less than they would have if we had the cap space. I think the only way owners can truly save themselves money when it comes to players is either by keeping the team well below the cap, but I don't see any teams operating at the cap minimum. Either that, or offset language if a player gets picked up by someone else. But even then, that just opens more cap to be spent on different players instead.

It can't be a Burns situation. Tmac is an unknown in the NFL. Burns had what, 4 years of NFL film at the time of the trade offer? Sure you can judge taking the trade or not with 20/20 hindsight. Which I'm sure you will if Tmac isn't all pro this year. I really doubt they turned down 3 first rounders based on the context of this video though. Feels like you are just priming yourself to poo on the team later in the year like you always do.

I agree with OP. 4 players on a second contract is a really, really good draft. nevermind all the other noise, that's it that's the bottom line for grading a draft imo. 2 starters+ is an above average draft in the NFL. Hate on it all you want, but them the facts. Go look it up.

That's odd. They are projecting BY to have 3 rushing TD's in 15 games (really?) and AD to have 0 for a total of 4 rushing TD's by QB's.

What? Dude was a rookie last year and is 22. poo I'd keep him till his rookie contract runs out at least.

Yeah contracts and dollars is probably 100% Brandt with little input from Dan.

I have learned over the years, there are some incredibly stupid fans who probably spend most of their day drooling all over themselves and demanding juice boxes.