BrisbanePanther

All fair points, and ones that he would definitely focus on I'm sure.

Ok so, we know Reno, but what restaurant? Also, while not as good, you could also have a (much more average, but not terrible) steak while riding Amtrak from Reno to SF. If you haven't done that yet, you owe it to yourself. Especially in winter or early spring.

I think you just earned that kid another meal from Popeyes!

Laughing is pretty juvenile. I'll say this much, he's probably more level-headed than I am because if I were in his shoes and got laughed at on the way to potentially washing out from the league because I didn't belong ON the field due to physical limitations, I could still very much belong OFF the field...where I could be vengeful and inflict all sorts of chaos on players on the field, whether I was in the booth, on a podcast, in a front office, or in the commissioner's office where I'd probably get paid more than they ever will without any risk of bodily harm...but I'm not bitter, I promise lol.

Agree. This Dak talk reminds me a lot of Matt Stafford, or "Stat Padford" as one of the talking heads calls him. Overrated in Detroit, the one season in California totally changes how he's seen. Also reminds me.of how many people here legit wanted no part of Lamar when he was allegedly available. No reason to believe Dak couldn't do the same.

I mean I see what you're saying, but we're still waiting on that better, cheaper meal and nothing in the team's history has shown the ability to successfully do this on the offensive side of the ball. Dak might be overrated, but his overrate is still pretty high, and the only reason why any choking stands out is because he's in a lot more meaningful games. Put him on this team today and he is already at worst the 3rd best QB in team history, warts and all. And depending on the trajectory, he could be the 2nd best (sorry Jake). Carolina wins the division with him at QB.

Am I reading this right? We've had awful QB play for over half a decade...and we'd pass on Dak because he has no "clutch gene" or can't get it done in the playoffs--something we haven't sniffed and have no reason to believe we will for years to come?!? Sorry, but this sounds like a starving man turning down a box of crackers because they're Great Value instead of Ritz. If a Great Value QB is available when you have none, there is no deliberation needed.

100% agree

It's gotta be the youth, but Andy Reid is innovative too, yet I think he and Adam hung out as kids.

It's ironic that he would be upset for that reason, given that he played the same role with Griffin.

I think it's worth taking a step back and looking at the impact of this on the NFL overall. It's like the league went from one extreme--rookies with no experience becoming the teams' highest paid players--to another--expecting rookies with no experience to play like they're the highest paid players. In both cases the vets get angry, and in both cases the rookies are under probably an unfair level of pressure created by a market not them individually. The vets also lose out because in the former case teams spent all their money on the rookie and not the supporting cast and now teams still don't spend money on the supporting cast when they don't know what they have with the rookie. The Atlanta experiment will be good to watch for this, especially if Cousins was to lead them to 2-3 division titles (entirely possible). They spent a lot of high draft picks on skill position talent rather than a QB and brought him in via FA. Will they go away from him when it's time to pay the skill positions while Penix is still on his rookie deal? They were stupid, but might have stumbled onto another potential way to build a team.

I saw two wins, or like in spades, one and a possible.

I think theres

Yeah, since I like being called out, I'm going to agree with you. He was atrocious last year and probably will be this year, but finding new ways to go on about it is a lot like finding new words to describe how hot the sun is. If that's how people like to occupy their time, that's their right. Can't say that I understand it but I suppose it's comforting in some way. Either way, we'll be on the Sanders or Milroe or Beck hype train this time next year while Bryce's super computer is one year closer to him maybe becoming the youngest OC in NFL history.

We get it, Bryce sucks and is unlikely to get better. Mopium is just the opposite form of copium from hopium. At this point, this is another mopium thread. This dead horse has been flogged enough. End the torture.

Yep, we go through this every year it seems. National writer says Panthers suck, Huddle cries basis/hate/whatever, and then lo and behold the team actually did suck. It's the same every year. Maybe a couple of Cam seasons did national media get us wrong. Otherwise, it's time to stop fighting city hall. These writers may know more than we give them credit for.

It was putrid. There was the 75 yd FGA that Frank sent Eddie out for (and he shrugged when he missed it lol) and Chicago started their backup QB Jag McBean, who looked okish against our vaunted D iirc. I believe they had also gotten Sweat back on D, which instantly played better than their stats showed in the games prior. Of all the games to finally watch live from Australia...

Well I'll be unrealistic and take UNC Charlotte all the way like I did for 14 or whatever their last year was. Only this time I won't have to create them. Transfer portal FTW.

This is exactly along the lines that I was wondering. If some YouTuber can diagram plays or follow an All 22 to review games, surely EA can afford to have people do something like this, and it wouldn't surprise me if they had computers do this automatically in order to build the AI. I mean we're talking about calculating football plays not the orbits of Jupiter's moons lol.

Agree. He should definitely be the lowest of NFL starters, but to put rookies above him (except maybe Williams) is just crazy. I just wish he took all this and made it bulletin board material. Then again, he's not that type of dude. He's more of a "run my own race" type rather than "destroy you for a slight against me" type.

Agreed. At risk of being called out for Bama Fandom again, I think the biggest home run swing in '25 might actually be Milroe depending on how the season goes. He's definitely set up to be the Anthony Richardson of this draft. He also beat Beck last year and gets Penix's coach this year. Then again, I saw his interview after beating Georgia and he won't wow anyone at the steakhouse, so...

Moved to draft thread

At risk of collecting piles of poo, a stupid question--how well does Madden's AI account for actual playbook and coaching? I ask because I've recently gotten around to playing '24 more (refuse to pay for it since it eventually comes with GamePass), and with Canales' playbook, the Bucs run a LOT of play action. Is that realistic? Is that what we can expect here as well? Given the draft investment in the RB position and Bryce's..."dimensions"...maybe so?

I see what you're saying, but to use this board's favorite word, I think it's a large dose of hopium/copium to place our fortunes on a hot hand that emerges from the shadows all of a sudden. There's way more Zach Wilsons than Joe Burrows. I understand sometimes players get buried on a bench at some schools, but ideally they would assert themselves accordingly in camp to be the starter. I would need to see at least two years of increasingly better play with more big plays and fewer stupid plays against top competition on bigger stages to start to feel more comfort.

Disagree. Other than not being Bryce, he's not it. The very definition of change for change's sake IMO. In fact all the '25 QBs are. Trade the #1 pick to another QB-desperate team like the Giants for their 2026 #1 and take our chances.