BrisbanePanther

"Consistent winner again"? I thought we were still looking for the first consecutive winning seasons?

They're focused on the fact that Herbert is there.

Other than precision blue colored glasses, why does this keep being a thing on the Huddle? Is it hope that he's Brandon Beane? We have no evidence that Morgan is any good and plenty of circumstantial evidence that he's atrocious. I say they give him and every single front office person an expedited exit out of the building and mail them their stuff later. Then they should gut and renovate the offices that they sat in, meeting rooms they used, and even any break rooms to get the stench out. Replace the toilets while they're at it with some that don't recycle the poo that they drop in them into the vent system that clearly has been inhaled and infected everyone's brain.

I mean, it didn't "get them fired". They lack of attention to it did--or at least helped.

100% agree. Maybe they were saving that for next year too...dopes.

Fair enough. It may be worth seeing his Bama pressers to get a bigger sample size, but I get your point. I think the ums and ahs are also him always trying to find the "right" thing say all the time, so he uses 100 words (60-70 of them fillers) when 10 would do. When you lose and have a lot of uncertainty, it's a lot harder to do that. I don't know that it's a sign of lack of mental toughness as much as a telltale sign he's significantly less confident now than he was six months ago. We criticise him for overthinking while playing. He clearly is doing the same while speaking. My voice trembles sometimes when I'm talking about things I actually like, so much so that I actually have to mentally tell myself, "no shaky voice!" On the other hand, I clearly remember Cam's post Super Bowl presser and he was excoriated for it (unfairly IMO), including in this here forum. Even Stroud's presser after the lost to Carolina was dissected and some Texans fans thought he was coming after Slowik, and I guarantee that if they ever hit a downturn his demeanour at pressers will be attacked too.

I keep seeing this, and he does do that a lot...then again, most people do. I've recorded myself preparing for speeches and I'm always stunned at the number of y'knows/kind ofs/ums that I use. It's actually embarrassing but I can't be fussed (nor have the time) to do Toastmasters. Bryce should do Toastmasters or something like it...but only after he get coaching from someone like Drew Brees (who Tepper should throw everything at to be his private full-time coach). Then again, he is a generation alpha kid, so he might indeed focus on Toastmasters.

I love this idea. Then when Penix also fails here, we can put the spotlight where it belongs: on our woeful franchise's broken front office and philosophy.

I wouldn't be. He won't get one but I suspect the team will. I mean, what are they gonna do? Fine him? Ban him from attending games the rest of the season? It's way more likely that Carolina gets docked pick(s). The irony is that maybe is the straw that finally tells him to get out of dodge since his actions materially impact the team's ability to improve...but I think that's the if to end all ifs.

Oh yes it can. The water throwing incident may go down as the day the Panthers began their relocation to Toronto. If actual fans on the Huddle are making a big deal of it, casual Carolinians might just find it so distasteful that they stay away. It'll be the Hornets all over again.

You misunderstand Charlotte. Tepper throwing water matters way more than a losing team. Morality first. Ask George Shinn.

While it would have been great to have Steichen, Tepper isn't the first nor will he be the last boss to pass on a candidate because of an interview. Plenty of people are very skilled and just don't interview well. I personally think too much emphasis is placed on interviews in the working world--it leaves you open to smooth talkers who are empty suits and could also make you miss high performers just because they don't have the gift of gab. Interviews are the equivalent of standardized tests IMO...they tell you very little, and less than track records of performance.

No one has said, "I hate Bryce", but there have been posts that allude to him cheating the system to ensure he was picked #1. No proof, only innuendo. That goes to his integrity as a man. If that's not hate then not much else is. Not to mention direct jabs at his height and stature, which many here do hate. Or that he was a fraud who really isn't a "super processor". Not skill related at all but definitely related to who he is as a man, and as soon as he has his next clunker, all those same claims will return with a vengeance.

Ravens don't get bundled with small market teams though. Even though Baltimore is not that big itself, being in that I-95 megalopolis gives them a lot of visibility. They've also been good during Harbaugh's long tenure, so that helps too.

I could see that, and I mistakenly thought they lost their 2024 1st in the Rodgers deal, but they actually keep it now since he won't play enough snaps. I still think that NY is a very tough market, and they are in a tougher division and conference. Saleh was supposed to be the next big thing too, and that may not be the case. As a franchise, other than '63, they've been way worse than the Panthers and Woody Johnson is one of the strangest owners in the league. That's why I still believe that it may be the only job worse than Carolina's, just not as worse as I thought.

And Russell was throwing 70-yarders from his knees in all the pre-draft noise.

What'll make this franchise look worse than it already does? Cutting bait on the QB after one year and all that you traded to get him, knowing that he was but one piece of a disaster rather than the totality of it. You could argue that Mike Shanahan was never viewed the same after basically doing that with Griffin and Cousins (though it was the same draft). A franchise that draft all defensive players in the recent past can afford to draft all offensive ones this time. That's the only choice here.

I see it like the old friends running away from a bear story...Tepper doesn't have to be the best owner, just not as bad as the other potential openings, which let's review the potential/likely openings this year and compare them to Tepper: - Davis (LV): probably even - Johnson (NYJ): probably even - Spanos (LA): probably better but not significantly - Blank (ATL): way better - Harris (WSH): unknown - Kraft (NE): maybe better - Benson (NO): way better If ATL makes the playoffs, Blank won't fire Smith. Johnson could give Saleh one more year but the QB situation is a mess with Wilson. Allen is probably done. The Carolina job would be a much better option than the Jets, so there's that. But it's definitely worse than the others, and ownership is only part of the reason.

Curious how this draft flowed where Marvin fell to #12?!?

I keep seeing these comments about all talking heads and reporters. It makes me wonder if there's anyone believable...or contrarily, maybe they're all shills for someone at the end of the day as they all have experience and are connected to some others--and human nature means that they'll inevitably be softer on some more than others. The NFL Industrial Complex is just the WWE maybe.

Slowik will be a popular name because of Stroud, but what I'd guess is that 99% of the Huddle won't know that Texans fans hated Slowik after they lost to Carolina. He was criticized for everything we know and love--conservative playcalling, not trusting his QB, etc. Even Stroud had a comment in the the following presser that some in Houston interpreted as him taking a shot at Slowik for the playcalling. On the other hand, they seem to have a very 2023 player-coach power dynamic down there. There was the instance where Stroud, Slowik, and some other players drew up a play on the sideline to exploit a weakness that they saw in the D. The players brought that to Slowik and he went with it. We all know that's not happening amongst the old school "see but not be heard" type of staff here. If Bryce is the brain that he was made out to be, working with Slowik might be good.

This is an irritating talking point that I hope isn't true, because if the brass with a total combined NFL experience stretching back to the Mesozoic Era went along with Tepper "to get along", then they should all be sacked and never be given a job anywhere again.

Then we're sunk, because even if he cleans house, he will make even worse moves--even the mythical "consultant" that we're all looking for him to hire will be a dope who interviews well but will give us the first 0-17 team in history.

Contracts aren't constitutions. Good lawyers can find weak spots and exploit them. We are not in this to be collegial. It's a results-oriented business that is cutthroat and I'd be all for Tepper making more enemies if it makes Carolina the winner.

We can't have it both ways. The same Tepper who can't hire properly won't conduct the right process to find a firm to do so. He won't hire the right firm either, so we can't trust that to work either. His best move is to upset his colleagues and spend $100m+ on securing the whole front office of a team that knows what they're doing and move them to Charlotte totally replacing the clowns that have been at Mint Street. Basically an acquisition, which should be in his wheelhouse. Organic growth can't happen with bad stock on a bad foundation, and the Panthers have had it in spades since 1993.