BrisbanePanther

This is that Voltron lion-looking helmet that Bosa wears...but Kittle also wears it, maybe because TEs also have blocking duties.

One other thing that will be interesting is how defenses will attack him. Because of both his height and stature, I think the refs will be flag-happy. If "central casting" height defenders use good technique and lower to tackle, the chance is high that they'll be flagged for unnecessary roughness because their hits will look helmet-to-helmet. In the flip side, because he's lower to the ground, trying to tackle him low could be seen as too close to his knees--another flag. And because he's so light, hits that might seem normal for most will look unnecessary to the refs. Before long, defenders may be afraid to hit him until they figure out a way to do so without being flagged. By then, I think he will take less severe hits to avoid all doubt.

Different sport but Zion is one the (if not THE) biggest dude on the court...when he plays, except almost he never plays because he stays hurt even in a non-contact sport. I guess I've still yet to see the injuries that small Bryce would get that big Cam wouldn't. I suppose he could get the wind knocked out of him more, but I don't see how he could have more concussion, knee injuries, shoulder injuries etc because he's small. I'm also not a sports physician, so there's that.

Yet their coach is a defensive guy and their GM might be also (coming from NE). If there was a concern about his size they'd know first because they'd know how they'd gameplan against him, and if he will be knocked out by NFL defenses. They're also the team that preferred Brock Osweiler because of his size too...maybe they've learned their lesson as a franchise. Ironically Bill O'Brien preferred Osweiler...and later coached Young. Would be interesting to hear his opinion.

I'm more in the Young camp but only slightly, and I can admit that what Stroud has done with this is significant. Especially when you read in his story that he spent a lot of time only being coached by YouTube.

Just wanted to note that all the comments on Lamar not having an agent (and the impact) should be balanced by Tunsil also not having an agent (and the lack of impact).

Well, we almost won the division this past season soo...I think it's definitely possible.

If it is confirmed that Stroud can diagnose a defense as well as Young reportedly can, then I could agree. I mean it almost sounds like Bryce plays chess out there.

I don't know how significant that is though...a star Alabama defensive player brought in by a defensive coach who was also a star Alabama defensive player. It may have been more surprising if Demeco didn't bring him in.

Fair enough--just tried to edit it but couldn't (maybe it's been too long). So yes, credit to you for starting the topic--I just wanted to give it its own home. Oh, and I also realize I should have made the title "Best Carolinas city". If mods can fix, please do.

Plus, I'm pretty sure that Herbert, Peyton, Brady, and Mahomes never won anything. Neither did Brees. On the other hand, Matt Leinart and Vince Young won. So did Jameis Winston and Charlotte's own Chris Leak. In fact I remember Leak carving Ohio State up in the championship game like it was nothing...and then that's exactly what he ended up doing in the NFL...nothing.

Just curious what "get out of the way and let the football people work" looks like to Huddleville. I mean it seems like anything besides making sure the checks don't bounce incurs Huddle Wrath and fears of Jerry Jones. Not trying to take up for him but hopefully the Huddlers who are bosses/managers are just as hands off with their employees as they hope Tepper is with his.

Figured that I would place this here since a Stroud thread is basically turned into a Charlotte vs Raleigh discussion. My vote is for Charlotte and it's not even close...then again I prefer bigger cities.

Sorry, Raleigh and Charlotte are not even in the same league. Charlotte is a now bona fide American-style big city (as opposed to global big cities), complete with big city advantages and disadvantages. Raleigh is a medium-sized city that some people prefer to Charlotte because it's not as big yet. Raleigh will someday be as big as Charlotte is today, and the same people that prefer it to Charlotte today will just move to Greensboro. And by that time, Charlotte may be the size of Dallas or Houston, and people who are vocal will like it less but the numbers won't lie.

I thought the same thing with them trying to jettison Corral...it frees up #9.

Sometimes you can do too much and the simplest answer is the correct one. Just make the pick.

I recall a story a few months ago that they were going to have to move on from him possibly as early as now because of $$ and because he wants to be a #1. Not a bad question at all. If he only costs #39 I'd do it and so would Cincy. EDIT: Here are a few stories: https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/allbengals-insiders-plus/football-outsiders-bold-move-for-the-bengals-trade-tee-higgins https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/24/bengals-tee-higgins-trade-speculation-extension/ https://www.espn.com.au/blog/cincinnati-bengals/post/_/id/34329/tee-is-a-big-part-of-what-we-do-can-the-bengals-keep-the-star-receiver-in-2023-beyond

I don't know about conference contenders yet, but with the right QB and Nuk (or any other reasonable #1 WR), I agree that Carolina should be the favorite to win the division despite all the changes. The NFC South is not going to good this year, either. Derek Carr won't make a difference in New Orleans, and they'd be the only real challenge. My source? The 2022 Carolina Panthers almost won a putrid division by rolling out an offense that could easily have been auditioning for a re-make of The Replacements.

Tepper? May as well make it a clean sweep for Charlotte.

Suns sold for like $4b.

I was Young first, then ok with Stroud after the Georgia game...but hearing the other day that Young would call two plays in the huddle and then pick one as part of his pre-snap read when he saw what the D was doing sews it up for me. Take Bryce. He had an NFL coach from the Belichick tree as his OC, and he surely has much more awareness and smarts to avoid hits than we have worries about him getting injured. A tell-tale sign of his views about himself is his insurance policy. If it's for an obscene number, then we know that he believes the NFL is high-risk. But if it's a typical policy, then we know he isn't worried and neither should we. I could still change though if it's proven that Stroud has done the same.

I had been pro trading for #1 from the beginning. Once Lovie won that game, I would have called Poles before the Texans were in the locker room. Chicago was always the ideal partner. They're already a young team with a ton of cap room. Having a million more picks was never going to be more valuable to them than a bona fide player, which was confirmed via reports that we tried to give the 2025 #1 and they insisted on DJ instead. Carolina was never going to have to mortgage away the future. Instead they'll now get to secure it.

Turns out Chicago is in love with him again too. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/bears-fans-lovie-smith-trade-panthers-draft/t7zlcenk3615qop6vv8tcz5z

Also, remember Deebo was trying to force his way out last year. I don't think anything has changed, so if we see a replay of last year he may also be easier to acquire now that they have CMC. I think we should try it before Houston does.

I think Nuk will come cheaper than everyone thinks. IIRC he's not in the best place with AZ. He could probably be had for a 3rd and a 4th, two 3rds at the most.