BrisbanePanther

Maybe a bit more than zero. It's not like they don't have a track record. This is the same franchise that had the worst draft day trade for a QB before Carolina took the crown. Never underestimate the hubris of a boy genius coach in an echo chamber.

Which is why I think they'd make an ideal trading partner for Bryce--they can't justify a new deal for Purdy and Shanny has an abnormally high opinion of himself. Take one of their 3rds and call it a day.

I think they should just end the drama and tell him he's playing for his next team. Full stop. This week to week "do they, don't they", "will they, won't they" stuff is crazy. Maybe Shanahan will trade one of their 3rds for him rather than pay Purdy the big dollars--he's certainly on the list of coaches I think would say, "They're just not using him right". Plus Lynch already knows the Panthers' price list. Bryce can head back home to California and Carolina can continue its neverending quest to replace Cam.

It's so weird to see the same crowd that agreed with benching the QB because of how he drags the other players and the locker room down...turn around and be upset at a win that the same locker room is probably happy about, ugly or not. This win makes the long plane ride from Munich and the bye week a lot better for the 53. So do we care about the rest of the team or nah? And FWIW, I was always pro-tank, but the guys in the locker room needed this.

I mean knowing what we know now, if Luke only ate and slept football and didn't dream about it too, would he have played longer? Did being so intense about the game contribute to his decision to hang it up early? Not arguing to be lazy, but just putting it out there. On another note, there is such a thing to having strong work ethic but it still being ineffective because you never had to learn how to learn. I know of people who sailed through school all the way to 12th grade and then struggled in college because they actually had to study...without ever learning how to study because they didn't have to. They eventually got it right with hard work but it was a hugely confronting learning curve. Bryce may be the same and that's what people here have said. Take his footwork--it's always been bad but never cost him before the NFL and even though he reported worked on it in the off-season, it still may not be effective because he never had to intentionally work on it. Same with reading the field, getting in the gym, etc that he looked good at before the NFL and is now the opposite.

I think that's only a piece of the quote--IIRC he said he did that for a week and then got back to work. I got no problem with him taking a week. If his ability is made or broken by 1 week, then there's a bigger problem.

I don't disagree with you, but as has been noted many times here, as the franchise QB he should be able to overcome that. I think it's normal to struggle with so much stacked against you though.

Have to agree. Reading this thread is a little like the twilight zone. Many were coalescing around a Bryce verdict 8-games into last season and were sure that he was already a bust because he didn't have the obvious tools or traits. At this point I'm not sure why Canales doesn't get the same type of criticism. He's clearly no McVay (which is still why owners takes chances on guys like him) and his product is more like Nathaniel Hackett's, who was also coaching a team with bad QB production and overall bad team play. He may just not be NFL HC material. So far, he's just a younger, cooler, maybe nicer version that Rhule was at this stage of his first season IMO. Hopefully he improves, but this team's record will be worse than last year's. Can't excuse him from that.

Allegedly the teams are us and Cleveland. But let's also see what else we've heard (true or not)...he wants a big market and doesn't want a cold weather city. So who does that leave that would be in position to draft him? Maybe Miami if they move on from Tua but that means a big financial hit. Neither of the LA teams. Not Dallas or Houston or Atlanta. Maybe SF as a wild card. The big markets left needing QBs are the NY teams, but they're cold weather cities. Plus, Vegas is not a big market. It's a "specialized" market but that franchise is not substantially more functional than Carolina. I think Dan and Dave and Dave should just call Deion's bluff and draft him. Otherwise we own the Raiders or 49ers drafts for the next three seasons.

I agree, but that was not the sentiment here previously. He waited an eternity (in today's NFL) to play. I actually think they moved on from Rodgers because A) they were tired of him and B) they needed to get Love out there before his rookie deal was up to know what to do since the limited game action he had was arguably inconclusive.

Which also conveniently won't lower potential trade value either.

Yes today, but pre-Aaron Rodgers trade, his name came up in the Huddle since it was unclear when/if he'd ever play. Practically no one here wanted him because he was pretty bad in the short time he had on the field when Rodgers was hurt.

Horse has bolted on Love...another QB the Huddle wanted no part of iirc.

Who will they pick? They'll pick Ward at 1 so that Cleveland doesn't pick him at 2. No one will call Deion's bluff. That said, I kind of wish we would take Sanders. He can then sit until the last day of the 2025-26 league year where we can then trade him to LV or some other place Deion approves for a king's ransom and draft Arch #1 in '26 (we're a lock for #1 in '26).

Allegedly he was but the Ravens played it well. In any event, I distinctly remember the overwhelming majority of people on this board poo-pooing the idea of Carolina chasing him because he allegedly was washed/limited/wanted too much/etc...and the same media who we criticize in the Bryce push here also pushed Lamar here before that. What's crazy is Lamar would have cost maybe only a little more that was given up for Bryce in draft capital.

I hope they don't play him. The team is likely to lose out the rest of the season, but it seems the fan base and locker room would rather ride that streak out with Dalton instead of Young. It's better for both parties (Young and the Panthers) that he not play so that the "what if" question stays as big as possible. The irony is that if Dalton steers the team to 1-16, that will only strengthen the "they didn't put enough around him" sentiment for Young, which will enhance his trade value.

? Are you saying that his tape looks markedly worse than Richardson's--at least enough for the draft hype machine? Richardson's assets were his metrics but he was (is) quite raw. Seems that's the case with Milroe as well? The metrics are what will probably see him drafted higher than he should be. Like I said, I think he needs to stay in school though.

I personally now think he should actually stay in school. Then again, as much as he's declined the last three games, he's still no worse than Richardson, who only dropped to the 4th pick. He will still go in the 1st and probably will go in the top 15. QBs get that benefit of the doubt now.

Yes. An AFC arms race is a perfect storm for us to drive up compensation. Diontae and Thielen should have limited days remaining with this team.

I tend to agree. I'm not seeing any more Bryce hangers-on in any sort of critical mass. There may be a couple that are more meh about him rather than being vehemently against him taking one more breath of Carolina air, but I wouldn't call that being a Bryce-stan. Even if there are a couple out there who still support him, even they will admit that he has been 180 degrees from what he was sold as. That said, I've noticed more how this board has gotten (IMO) almost toxic towards him with the personal attacks. Yes he sucks and yes he has to be gone asap, but you would think he's the worst person (not just player) affiliated with the Panthers this century. At risk of getting poo'd, that's not trying police or play hall monitor. Just an observation.

Totally agree. And drafting him probably won't upend the approach to draft and sit--even if he's drafted relatively high.

Agree it was a bad loss, but there were only 45 states the last time that defense gave up that many to Vandy. 35 points has been enough to beat them for almost 120 years. That said I'm now focused on how he responds on the field. He's said all the right things, but now I need to see that he won't go into the fetal position with his play--both in his will and the coach's trust in him. He turned the ball over on the ground and through the air and his pick six was literally the difference between a win and loss. If he goes back to beast mode, then all is good and he's still a 1st rounder. If he wills them back to the playoff, he's probably in the top 10-15. If they win the title, the bigger question will be if Tep has the onions to take another Bama QB at #1.

As someone who wants to see Milroe in Process Blue, I'm more focused on his play the rest of the season. The defense gave up more points to Vandy than any Alabama team in nearly 120 years! Pretty sure at least one mainland US state didn't exist then. However, his pick six is literally the difference in the game...then to fumble at a critical time. Let's see if he plays tentative through the air or on the ground the rest of the season. If he doesn't and uses this embarrassment as motivation to get to the playoff, he'll be invited to New York. If he wins the championship, he may be the #1 pick.

Like you with Hunter and Sanders, I have been "that guy" flying the Milroe flag. Now we see that more people are paying attention and he is rocketing up draft boards. I even saw him referred to as Lamar with a better arm. A better-passing Lamar should be an automatic pick. We will need to use our #1 to get him. The dumbest, most Panther thing to do would be to skip him because he's an Alabama QB. Same uniform yes, but different day, different era, different coach. There's still room on the Milroe bandwagon, but it's getting crowded fast...you can even see Mel elbowing his way to the front seats.

Here we go again falling in love with someone too quick and not thinking clearly. How many "we can't move" players have we had...only for them to either leave in FA or resign here for a boatload and instantly be seen as an overpaid albatross contract? Where's Chinn? If you can get a 1st for Diontae, you take it. If you can get a Day 2 pick for him, you take it.