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I flat out said he deserved to be fired... I just think its ridiculous people try to turn him into this big evil villain. The locker room was a tight group, they liked Rhule no matter how much we want to see him as negative incarnate. The players liked Rhule, the players like Wilks. Both of those things can be true. Only fans outside of the locker room want to see it as it has to be one or the other. No matter how much some people want to hate him, he was just a dude who wasnt good enough at the job he was hired for, I dont think it was from lack of trying, he was just in over his head. Spoiler alert, the team is still going to have plenty of issues after he is gone. He wasnt the only problem and that will be clear. Also the roster has more talent now than it did when he inherited it. Hes not the boogeyman.

So many coming up with their own narratives. Heads up, Rhule needed to go, he also isnt the cause of everything you dont like about the panthers. Most of the players really liked him, you can find plenty of quotes from players today that confirm it. Luke is a big fan of Wilks, that's why hes there today. It doesnt have to have anything to do with Rhule. All of these things can be true. Was he deserving of being fired? Definitely. Is he this villain so much of the huddle wants to scapegoat for everything they dont like? Probably not. Let it go. He can't hurt you anymore.

I like him a lot but I want an offensive HC. Also I pray that we dont randomly go 500 the rest of the year even if that would be the panthers standard. 7 wins would be a classic panthers move.

Nooo. Let him ride into the sunset in peace.

I really dont think we are going to fire him, promote one of our current coaches as an interim and automatically start winning.

He was definitely hated here as a qb coach. Mostly because Cam always had the same strengths and weaknesses he came in with. I believe he was also considered more of a yes man.

I disagree. I think Flores is an ok coach. I would put him on the same level as Rivera or someone similar. The biggest thing that hurts his case in my mind is they had a pretty talented roster and the team didnt take a step back at all when he left, if anything theyve looked somewhat better.

Actually it definitely does. Our oline isnt making the dline pay for stretching out to bat them down. I'm not sure if its coaching or what. Also it doesnt have to be in the balls, can be gut, ribs, or a hard shove the second they try to extend to bat the ball down. Honestly it's hard for them to extend to bat the ball down if the olineman doesnt give them space as well. There are lots of options to slow it down, and I never see us doing any of them on tape.

There is plenty of blame to go around. No one on offense is playing especially well besides a lineman or two. The line will continue to gel though.

Yea that's one of the main things these days, great offensive coaches can really hurt great defensive teams by scheming and finding the mismatches and exploiting. Not always of course but it definitely seems to help.

How long ago were those examples though.

As someone else said earlier I would be great with Ben Johnson as HC and him bringing Mark Brunell with him as OC. I have no idea about potential DC yet.

Some players called him out after him and Mahomes got into it on the sideline a week or two ago. They basically just said he was overly confrontational and didnt really know much about the passing game and was just carried by talent. No idea the amount of truth in it, that's just what some former players said.

I would have agreed 10 years ago but these days offensive teams that are great at creating confusion and mismatches basically dominate the league.

I remember the days when the huddle definitely hated Dorsey. I've thought about mentioning it for a while but didnt want to get flamed for it lol. I'm not sold on him just yet. The Bill's offense has elite talent and has been pretty good for a while.

He got worse the more he played.. his best games were the first two he was on the roster.

Let. It. Go.

We had a team that won the first game of the season and then lost the next 15 in a row.

Here are some truths that some people here dont want to hear. Nothing is 100% in one coach's, position group, or players fault. It's a shared blame of different degrees. I wish everything was just one persons fault like we love to act because that would make everything so much simpler. As I see it first and foremost I put our offensive struggles on our OC. Play calling is very vanilla and doesnt fit our players. I would say in a very distant number two would be Baker. Hes not playing well and play calling does nothing to adjust or make throws/windows any easier for him. Third I would say are the WRs in general. They arent getting seperation and a lot of that still comes to bad playcalling for our personnel. I think DJ Moore is a great receiver but hes not a great route runner. He is a receiver that you help scheme open. Quick 5 yard routes in space for his elite rac or getting some quick pick type plays to help him get open. Moore still has some improving to do to be able to get himself open regularly, again I would say this mostly falls on the OC and the plays hes calling. Could all of these guys do better than they have been? Yes, so there is some small blame there, but in the end our play calling isnt putting anyone in position for easy matchup wins.

To be fair his effort was questioned mostly after people watched all 22 film of the game, not before.

If you watch much film then Moore isnt playing especially well all of the time either.

Yea I think there are a lot of people reading into this what they want. Hes clearly frustrated with how things are so far for him this season and the questions are just needling in on that and hes getting more irritated as they drill him. Frustrated doesnt mean mad at the coach or the qb or anyone specifically. Could he be frustrated with Rhule? Definitely, does this really point that out? Only if you want it to.

To be fair I believe the Lions have the highest paid offense in the entire NFL. Does that mean that equals being good? No, but you would definitely hope they would be. Not saying that to knock him down at all, just one of many things that have to be considered.

I read the article earlier. It's basically a new way of grading receivers specifically and based on last years rankings Anderson was the worst receiver in the nfl last season. Including right ends. DJ Moore also wasnt in the top 10 of any of their categories I noticed.

Pff is notoriously bad for oline and usually decent against the secondary. The first half I thought chinn probably had his best half playing the pass. Not so much in the second half. Theyve really got to stop putting him in coverage so much.