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If I remember correctly he also had another really nice play in the second half where he got through the line quick, the rb hit the other gap and Hoskins brought him down from behind while being held by the oline and they flagged the hold.

I've never heard a word about PJ performing better in practice? Also, how do you explain how PJ looked in his actual game time last season?

There is no level that PJ has even been considered in the same league as Darnold. That's not to say Darnold is a lock to be good but this PJ koolaid is strong. He looked fairly decent against backups the other night (as someone with a couple games nfl experience should) but he didnt even look great. He looked ok lol. He played in two games last season and looked ok in one and downright awful in the other one. Hell Kyle Allen looked like a world beater for 4.

I didnt see posts like that. I saw a couple mentioning he wasnt a good backup and one mentioning an overreaction to 1 preseason game but those are both responses to the post. I didnt really notice any saying the post shouldnt have been made.

I didnt see posts like that. I saw a couple mentioning he wasnt a good backup and one mentioning an overreaction to 1 preseason game but those are both responses to the post. I didnt really notice any saying the post shouldnt have been made.

That's kind of the point of a forum isn't it? Especially if the topic is titled as a question. It seems fairly natural that there would be comments for each side of the fence.

I think as long as he's healthy then Sam Darnold is the qb all season. If hes not the answer then I'm fairly sure they dont think the answer is on the roster. So far our approach at qb feels a lot like Tepper and his making his fortune on hedge funds. Their method to find a qb so far seems to take flyers on low risk potentially high reward shots. If they dont pan out in their first season then they didnt give up that much and arent especially tied to them for more than a year or two and if they hit on one then they didnt give up much and have a good young qb. The downfall being it can potentially basically mean they are almost throwing away seasons on an individual basis but they are also adding more and more pieces to surround the eventual qb of the future. Hopefully its Darnold.

Kenny Robinson had the highest pff grade with an 89.7. He also looked solid to my eye at least. He took most of his snaps at FS but he also took some snaps at slot. He's someone I've hoped would start to flash eventually.

Another pleasant surprise was Kenny Robinson leading the defense in PFF grade with an 89.7 and they moved him around a lot. https://twitter.com/PFF_Panthers/status/1427269115522211846?s=20

Also interestingly enough in the one game I would say he looked much better at RT than when they kicked him inside.

He played all but 3 snaps he missed between moving from tackle to guard.

I know it was just the preseason and it was against backups so it has to be taken with a grain of salt, but I was pleasantly surprised with Christensen. Especially at RT. He had a couple bad snaps but overall I thought he had a pretty solid performance. I know most of us have been hoping he would end up being good but as camp has went on I think a lot of doubt had started to creep in. Most of the reports coming out were saying that the potential is there but hes definitely not ready, which is scary to hear about an older rookie. Could it be that maybe he's just one of those guys that are better on game day?

I was pleasantly surprised with most of the game honestly. First preseason games usually feel much uglier to me. The offensive in the redzone and the offense on third down were the two biggest negatives that were something we struggled with last season. I'm excited though, all the young guys we have been hyping up and hoping to see play well since the draft and all through camp pretty much played solid at worst and stood out at best.

You mean the panthers scouts and coaching staff? You think Chris Simms got in their heads?

You dont draft someone just because they play a position you may need. The coaches and scouts have to be sold on them based on their film and workouts. For whatever reason they obviously weren't. None of the rest really matters. Could they end up being wrong? Sure, every team and their staff makes mistakes, but I dont think this was playing it safe. Honestly drafting fields would have been the safest option for them I would say.

I agree that from time to time being a great athlete is handy but pocket awareness and mobility in the pocket are the main things I care about. Ever since Cam it seems a lot of people think you have to have a running qb to win when most QBs definitely arent what I would call a running qb. I believe Mahomes' 40 yard time was 4.8 and Rodgers was over a 4.7. Being able to feel and avoid pressure in the pocket and then continue to make reads and throw on the move is much more important than a QB being able to run, as far as I'm concerned.

I feel like people put too much value on a qb running a 4.40

There is a reason for that most likely. I feel like they pretty much know his shoulder can't handle making many throws especially during the preseason it's not worth it. He also just cant make as many of those deep throws any more.

That's what I was thinking. I remember his first couple days being rough when Rhule said they were throwing everything at him immediately.

That's what I've heard mostly too. I've also heard the consensus that he has looked a lot better as of late. That's why it seemed weird that of the 6 topics they chose to cover in the entire NFL they chose to make one on Darnlod's "camp struggles."

I know bleacher report is usually garbage but did anyone see the article about buying or selling the latest training camp buzz? One of the categories was on Darnold struggling mightily in training camp? I've definitely heard he has had some ups and downs but nothing like they are portraying. Here is a link to the full article. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947117-buying-or-selling-nfls-latest-training-camp-buzz-entering-preseason Here is what it says about Darnold in training camp recently. " According to ESPN's David Newton, the 24-year-old has struggled in camp, throwing one notable interception despite a "wide-open" target and making overthrows in situational drills. It was always going to take Darnold time to get adjusted to life with a new team, something that could extend into the regular season. On paper, he's got a couple of strong targets at tight end, plus rookie Terrace Marshall Jr., DJ Moore and Robby Anderson at wideout. But the Jets were willing to give up on Darnold for a reason. Over three seasons, he's completed just 59.8 percent of his passes with 45 touchdowns and 39 interceptions. The Panthers are all-in on him for one season regardless, but a rocky start during what is usually a time of unending optimism is buyable and suggests it could continue. Verdict: Buying"

It was mostly fans hyping Moore that I saw.

Maybe Rhule is just talking him up or maybe he's making plays in practice. I've heard his name mentioned several times lately for making plays. I also know he had a couple good catches at fanfest including the diving two point conversion catch. Hes probably just a JAG that has looked solid in camp but that doesnt mean Rhule mentioning him has nothing to do with his play on the field.

I heard he really struggled in their big practice that was what you would compare to our fan fest. I'm not sure how he has looked most of camp though.

I wouldn't call Mahomes a running quarterback. No more than saying Rodgers is a running quarterback really. There is a difference in being mobile and being a running qb.