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I wouldn't go that far. Nolan Smith was 240 and ran a sub 4.4 and still went pick 30. Combine doesn't make a player jump that much unless it's a bad team that drafts badly.

Good running backs don't make a bad team good. Good running backs make a good team really good. We are fine with Chubba and a day 3 pick. Jeanty doesn't win us any more games.

What?

I kind of agree, before I saw how much Bowers has changed the future forecast of the Raiders. That said I still think I agree on not taking a te at 8, but if they take him i won't be outraged.

A lot of people are saying there are 4 blue chip guys in this draft. Those would be Carter, Graham, Hunter, and.. Warren. Throw away positional value and he's probably the best player on the board ar 8.

He can play 43 end.

I disagree. He gets pushed back some inside. He makes plenty of tackles but in the middle there are always a yard or two further back than they should be. I think he's a pretty good prospect if you look at him as a classic inside linebacker but not near a top 10 guy. I think the main reason he is considered by some as a top 10 prospect is because of his athletic potential as an edge, but it's mostly all based on potential.

We specifically made him our deep coverage safety though. He would have been fine as an in the box strong safety.

A lot of their grades are very strange. I do have to say though that there are a lot of worlds where if you throw positional value out the windows, Warren may be the best player available when we are on the clock.

You missed the point entirely. I wasn't comparing him to Chinn. I was saying he is a guy you've got to be creative with uses for him. He's not a classic edge or classic inside. I wasn't comparing how he plays to chinn at all. I was just meaning he doesn't have a true defined role, just like Chinn. They were awful trying to figure out how to use Chinn and it got worse every year.

I disagree. I don't think he's exactly close to a Luvu. Luvu was pretty much a true edge that had played inside. Walker you're going to have to be a little more creative with. He's not going to really set an edge, he's great in the open. He gets pushed around a little on the inside and when lineman gets their hands on him he's stopped most of the time, but like I said even though he can't set an edge he can make plays in the run game if he's free.

He's a gadget guy imo and needs to go to a team that knows how to use him. I don't think Evero and our vanilla defense will. See Chinn.

I'm just personally not a TMac believer yet

Cam got called out multiple times doing it. I remember one time some woman who was married i believe posted the dms from cam where he was saying something about how he was the upgraded software or some lame stuff like that.

I don't believe in XL and I still don't want to reach on wr at 8.

Shaq played both ways in college. More on defense and then a bit on offense.

We only draft receivers who skip quickness and agility drills at the combine.

He has 500 yards and 4tds basically being forced touches and getting every possible opportunity. He was the 8th best wr with lost of wr in front of him getting way less opportunity. 500 yards when thielen misses half the season and your second wr is an undrafted rookie (that did more with the opportunities) is not good. It's bare minimum to not be thought of as a bust already. Especially playing 5 years in college.

Carter and Graham. I might consider Hunter.

You're still really thinking drafting bad players is on Tepper? Dan and Fitterer have been exactly who they always were. Both chasing types of players that fit their glory days that don't work in the modern NFL.

It seems to be a strategy we use when drafting. Instead of taking a later guy when a position is deep, we prefer to take an early guy when the position isn't good in the draft.

I think it's very likely and they should. This is a very talented deep class and they need someone to back up Hubbard since Sanders may be gone. They need a more power short yardage guy who can also block. I definitely hope Dan doesn't continue his old school mentality and draft one early, but they should definitely take one in the 4th or 5th.

I remember years ago when some free agent just posted a picture of the sky on their social media and this place somehow thought that meant he was definitely coming here. I can't remember who it was though.

That archetype isn't that common of a #1 wr now. Almost all the best wr are are around 6' and just great at running routes and getting open. The big body jump ball guys are a dated dying breed. The way defenses play now you're not really taking many deep shots to a big body guy anymore.

Wasn't there story Cam's rookie year where he wouldn't work out with the team in the weight room until eventually Thomas Davis called him out for it?