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Those comps dont make much sense though.

To be fair, outside of Lawrence everyone tried to say this exact same thing at this point last year. At this time last year Howell and Rattler were considered cant miss prospects.

Willis also went against much worse defenses than the acc.

So with every other qb prospect it's ok to entirely focus on their weaknesses but with Willis you can only focus on his strengths and if you mention his clear weaknesses its just because you hate "mobile" quarterbacks? Willis has just as many questions marks as any other potential first round qb.

Most people seem to act like Willis is the only qb with mobility in this draft though? Every qb that could potentially go in the first or second round besides Strong I would consider very mobile for a qb for NFL standards.

I agree with you to an extent but the agonizing over the thought of drafting a mobile quarterback works both ways. There are way more people here who overrate mobility than hate the idea of having a mobile qb.

Yes. Obviously. What's your move you're making right now?

What would you do at qb right now?

In my opinion QBs ceilings are almost impossible to get an accurate read on unless they have an absolute noodle arm. The people coming up with most of these ideas of qbs ceilings are basing it entirely on elite arm strength or their speed. Neither of those things is used especially often and Pickett is actually above average to good on both of those traits anyways. Flashy plays in college doesnt neccesarily equal a much higher ceiling.

Yep, until I read who posted it I thought they meant the opposite of what they meant.

Well it does affect me when there are a million posts a day saying the exact same thing. Everything is terrible, fire rhule, tiny hands, etc. Over and over.

It seems like some people should just change teams by now. Why be a fan of the panthers? If everything you think about it is negative why do it? Its entertainment. It's for fun. I just dont understand the point for some people here. I'm not saying fans shouldn't be upset or they cant be negative but what do you as a fan get out of being negative and hating everything about the team right now 24/7. It seems exhausting.

Yea that's what frustrates me about these takes. A lot of the best qbs dont have anything physically elite. The most important part of being a qb is between the ears. Second to that is accuracy. Neither of those show up as elite physical traits or exciting flashy ideas but it's the truth. So to say those things can be coached, especially making quick decisions etc. Is ridiculous, some of the stuff between the ears cant be coached any more than running fast or throwing it far.

I'm as uncertain on Pickett as the next guy but this is a silly take.

The problem with this argument is almost every top qb in this draft besides Strong falls into this category basically.

That's what I see in the tape I've watched too. Mid 4.5. He's quicker than fast.

More athletic yes. I'm not sure about an athletic freak. There is too much tape of him getting ran down from behind by these small school linebackers. I would guess (since he didnt work out at all we have to guess) that hes a mid to upper 4.5 guy. Which is plenty athletic for a qb dont get me wrong. I just wouldnt put him in the athletic freak department by default. You've got to remember most of the defenders he was going against are definitely not going to be playing on Sundays or even considering it. PJ walker went up against better defenses in college and much better defenses in the xfl. All that said I wouldnt say the two are especially comparable.

Oh. I thought he said something about not knowing why he lost. To me the idea of what hes saying makes total sense unless you're just trying to find more reasons to not like the guy. If you dont know why you're losing then the problems causing you to lose are most likely going to continue.

Yea I didnt see it that way at first but I actually agree. His squint at the end of the video is pretty clear that hes squinting to see whatever hes timing better.

Apparently Sam was really good at three step drops last year. Sorry I have no idea how to embed from my phone. https://twitter.com/PFF_Panthers/status/1508618409877065728?s=20&t=zV6YNnEFpXEId3oPniaU8w

That's the thing. Everyone sees these people outside of the NFL that have nothing to do with any teams talking about their rankings and all this and then people take it as gospel when really it could be totally different than what most teams think.

If a rookie qb in his rookie season ends up being enough to save Rhules job then maybe he shouldn't be fired hypothetically?

I would imagine one of the top 3 ot or top 3 de could look pretty enticing to the right team.

Or maybe Rhule is learning and adapting from his NFL experience. That's usually what happens when people gain experience.

A lot of people thought his weird month long retirement had something to do with something behind the scenes with TB and trying to strong arm his way. If there is any truth to the Mia rumors that just mostly confirms it.