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A funny quote I saw in an article after last nights game. Also a reason I'm glad we went with an offensive coach lol "That is what the owners want, $40 million skill players flopping on the ground, drawing fouls from [part-time officials who double as] chemistry teachers, medical device salesmen and the like," an NFC defensive coach told Mike Sando of The Athletic.

I get what you're saying but there is no way the NFL could fully rig games. Too many people would have to be in on it. What they could easily do is help push teams. Officiate one team a little tighter. Look at tape and figure out what teams are more likely to do that might could be flagged and potentially throw those flags more. As far as the second part of your post they have sky cam technology already and they should be using it heavily during the entire game to help with calls.

If its incompetence it would be more 50/50 you would assume. Not clearly all calls going to one team.

Well the playoffs are most important to me personally. I'd prefer a qb who doesnt get shut down in the playoffs but I will look up the stats against top 10 defenses later.

Hes 1-3 in the post season while averaging 55% completion percentage and 225 passing yards. Hes thrown 3 touchdowns and 5 interceptions in those games. Hes rushed for 1 touchdown and had 5 fumbles. He only lost 2 of those which still puts him at 4 touchdowns and 7 turnovers in his 4 playoff games.

Hes elite against above average to bad teams. He plays a really good team or makes it to the playoffs and his passing numbers and numbers in general are very bad.

You know who that does sound like? At least as far as the media and everyone else says at least. The old man Tom Brady. I do think Reich will want to go with a veteran qb and I think at some point in the offseason Brady to carolina may get a little buzz at least. I dont know how I feel about it though.

The only one I would say really fits that mold of the top 4 qbs is Young. Accuracy and decision making are literally the main weaknesses of the next 3 prospects.

The riverboat ron moniker was hugely overblown. He only started being riverboat ron after he was about to lose his job for being too conservative and anytime that the game really mattered he reverted back to being super conservative. Going for it on 4th and 1 on the opponent's side of the field in meaningless games with Cam at qb isnt that aggressive. Its idiotic not to.

I dont think you instantly change your entire way of thinking because you take one swing and miss. The odds arent good that the first coach you ever hire is going to be great regardless of experience. First time coach from defensive background and known to be conservative is totally different than first time coach from offensive background. The only thing similar is the amount of experience they have at head coaching.

I'm sure you can also make a list of previous head coaches for other teams who also never won much again. That's most of them actually. It's a crap shoot either way. I would rather take the risk than low ceiling retreads.

Also the whole supposedly being a defensive coach and letting them burn us for 3 huge touchdowns running the same play over and over without helping adjust.

I doubt it. Fitterer even said after this season that last years draft was a "nuts and bolts" draft and never mentioned Corral I dont think. The question I'm sure that came up is what would you want to do to fix the qb problem. Not, can you fix corral?

To be fair, of course hes going to say hes got big plans for the offense. What else is he going to say when trying to get a job.

The defense was much better before Wilks and holcomb took over with the same roster. Also, all of those rankings are in the bottom third of the nfl. That's below average at the very best

Not just destroy our secondary. Literally ran the same play for 3 bomb touchdowns and we still never adjusted.

First off, I would rather have Steichen. Payton would be a distant third choice, but jeez this place. So some people here think Payton retired from the saints, not because he didnt want to coach there anymore, but he retired for an entire year just in the hopes to screw the Panthers in there hypothetical at the time next head coach search?

All the trade up talk will be moot when we give up this years first or next years to sign Sean Payton anyways. I'm definitely against that more than trading up for Stroud but that's the way things currently seemed to be headed imo. I'd rather bring in Steichen personally.

We were a bottom third defense in yards allowed and a bottom half defense in points this year and our total defense numbers regressed a lot from the previous season and even from the first 6 games of the season. With Wilks a super conservative defensive coach at the helm. I would at least like to have an innovative offensive coach if you're going to put up bottom third defensive numbers as a defensive coach.

While I definitely agree with you, I think it all comes down to his workouts and how the scouts see him. You cant trade away your first next year to take a qb just to take one. Over reaching for need puts a lot of teams in a hole quick. In the history of the panthers how often has trading future draft picks worked well for us?

There are a lot of question marks with Stroud. It would be different if he was a for sure prospect. I'm fine with giving up a couple seconds or something but I dont like giving up next year's first when we very well could be a bad team next year even with Stroud.

He has also performed terribly in the playoffs and against most of the best teams in general. He is an elite runner who is great against above average teams and below but I dont believe in him in the playoffs.

TB had a losing record and Seattle and detroit finished 9-8, and we split with TB and our coaching staff was totally exposed the second time we played them. Those teams werent exactly regular season juggernauts.

Exactly. Every above average team they lost and every game that actually mattered they lost. He went .500 against a bunch of below 500 teams.

Going this year or next year wont affect that big second deal though. Heck if you're confident you're great then if you're just worried about that second deal, the way the rookie contracts scale its probably better to go in the second round so you bypass that 5th year option if you really want to gamble.