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Who do you want at 8?

To be fair, he did smoke the agility drills at the combine.

They also have a top receiving tandem in the NFL and a defense that had Mahomes totally flustered. It's hard to compare any style to the Eagles because they have the best roster in the NFL by a fairly large margin.

Most of those guys you listed are going to hurt you just as much in the pass game, also you can't build a defense around your schedule in 1 season.

I get what you're saying but his pass rush win rate is terrible. I get that our run defense and defense in general was awful last year, but leave it to Dan Morgan to sell out to build a defense entirely around stopping the run in the modern nfl.

I hope Pats reach for OT but I think they will take Hunter if he's there. There is a chance though that hunter and Carter are gone at picks 2 and 3. Then pats probably take OT or reach on TMac, I think.

I think he most likely goes to Jax at 5 but if he's there at 7 then NYJ takes him.

I agree. If you look at that list there are a lot of players that i would say we would probably have ranked really close to the same, and on that list who are you 100% sure won't make it to pick 14 or so? Not many.

I want to take a flyer on Dont'e Thornton on day 3. Is he a RAS guy? Big time, but have him come in sometimes as wr 4 and take the top off the defense running the same 2 or 3 routes every time basically like Metcalf his rookie season. No one is talking about this guy and I think he is definitely my favorite sleeper, and I don't even like big wr normally.

I think a lot of wrs are going to go in the second round before we pick. There are a lot of wr needy teams. I think there will be a big run on them in the late 30s and 40s.

He may not know what he's doing and the tennessee system is junk for nfl scouting but I really want to take a day 3 flyer on Dont'e Thornton. No one is talking about him and at the very worse he can run 3 routes and take the top off the defense as a wr 4. Basically play poor mans rookie Metcalf role

I just don't like taking a risky gadget player at 8. I personally feel like 8 is just a really bad spot and we should try to trade back if possible. All the players that would be really good for us are gone and then the second wave of players that would be good for us are a bunch of equally rated guys who some of them would easily be available at 14 or 15 which is more of their true value if we didn't reach.

Ohhh yea, I misread it.

I know it's irresponsible and crazy but to move from 8 to 3 and only give up next year's 2nd is pretty tempting. Especially if both Carter and Hunter are on the board. I've started to really like Hunter as a WR so he's grown on me a bit.

I agree. I don't think he's quite a first round lb and all the edge love is based on projection and potential.

Everyone talking about his 4.5 sacks in his career also should consider Micah Parsons had 6 in his college career. The NFL and college are different games with different coaching. He's definitely still a huge risk though.

He's not even that great at true contested catches. A handful of people are going to find ways to spin or ignore everything for their love of this guy and that's fine. No one will know who's right for a while.

I don't think your analogy works exactly. Yes results are all that matters in the end, but these are the best of the best going against one another. Any tiny advantage you can get can make a huge difference.

General work ethic and love of the game, and also I wouldn't care about watching my own tape, I would be grinding tape of the defense I'm up against. Learn tendencies etc

https://twitter.com/Pick6PackFB/status/1906265349747618237 can still never get embed to work but ouch. Not watching film and not liking to watch football definitely doesn't sound like someone Dan would draft.

Yep, exactly. In the NFL these days you need quick shifty receivers that get open running their routes. Separation is key. We keep drafting wr's like it's 1999 and we are just going to throw deep balls in to double coverage, when the modern NFL defense is a shell that focuses on stopping over the top passes. We literally keep trying to build to what the rest of the NFL has already figured out and learned exactly how to stop. The same with chasing the seahawks and legion of boom defense always.

Sure, but there have been a lot more cases of these tweener guys not working out than there have been Hasson Reddicks.

My main concern for edge potential (which is the only way he's worth pick is that he doesn't have an edge build at all.

Yep. Much closer to Drake London than Mike Evans like some people want to say. Evans was much more explosive and better at using his size to make plays contested. TMac is better on the short and intermediate routes.

They literally used the individual fastest time for that post. Basically everyone there had him between 4.54 and 4.59. Just watch the tape. He's not a 4.4 guy. Also you usually add .05 for hand timed pro days.