Catsfan69

Also you know a big contributing factor to elite guys not winning more is salary. Brady consistently playing for less is a major factor in his championship success.

That very well could be. But he definitely has a better chance than AR15

What Big Ben not elite? 64,000 yards and 418 tds 2 rings isn't elite? Let's look at your list Only 3 guys on that list aren't better than Cam.

Not being familiar with the waiver wire process I would have thought he'd be picked up by now.

I don't hate Cam he was a good player. I appreciate him as a great human. I have always hated people getting more worship than they deserve tho. He was good but not elite. He should have made us forget Brady was ever born with his Natural talent and I will always think he underachived.

Passing is what matters. Did you see that SOB Brady last night? Even as old and washed as he is he passed them to a win. What Allen did a couple of weeks ago with like 45 seconds left? He didn't win the game running two big air strikes and they win. What Mahomes did in the playoffs vs the Bills. What was it 13 seconds? You can't win close games late in the NFL with legs from the QB position. You just can't. Especially not repeatedly. This has been proven over and over and over. I want an elite passer first. Then him being mobile is a bonus.

You realize a place kicker has won MVP before right?

What's my definition?

You guys always use the term exciting to watch when you talk about these guys. What exactly excites you? Please be specific.

You know MVP doesn't mean best QB in the NFL that year right?

I'm not trolling. He's the most overrated player in team history.

You mean how he blew the game 100 percent vs Washington before the injury? Or the 8 yd pass to DJ after the injury that he sailed over his head vs Detroit. His passing ability absolutely held us back. Period.

He.never got any better he was essentially the same guy in 2016 as his first day with us. Getting better is a player's responsibility on his own. Before and after the TJ Watt hit he was blowing games late with his inability to pass the ball.

Cam Newton is not who I want. I want a much better passer than Cam Newton. Cam Newton is the floor in my QB goals.

Yeah when I was out in Oregon at the start of the year working I got NFL plus. Went to watch the game and it came up this can only be watched on a mobile device. And it's still happening. I guess my phone isn't mobile enough lol.

You mean his accuracy throwing against air?

Exactly! That's exactly who he is Taysom Hill!!! I've been trying to put my finger on it.

There's two of us. I won't be driving those 4 hrs.

Almost all youtube vids for all QBs cherry pick. But I've gone out of my way to watch both these guys. I don't want either but Levis has a much better arm and I have seen him male NFL throws in games while I was watching. Throws into tight windows. Layering throws over LBs but dropping in before DBs Etc. I'd be much happier to stick with Corral this class is so bad

He's a terrible passer. I don't like Levis but I've at least seen him make NFL level throws.

5:45

3:10 of the same video

Here is one. 2:50 mark. He missed a td by what 8 yards? It's hard to find all his throws because most videos only post highlights and not every attempt.

Have you watched any of his games?

Nobody within 5 yards of him