OldhamA

There's like 5 players in the starting line-up in basketball - it's the same for hockey too, right? I assume their drafts are short. The baseball draft is like 50 rounds long, half the picks don't even sign and even then they disappear for 2-3 years in their developmental system IF they're any good. A MLB team will have what, 130+ players in their system? Apples to oranges. In the NFL you HAVE to get that pick right immediately or you're throwing millions of dollars away and getting coaches fired. The guy you pick has to be good enough to crack a 53 man roster of College All-Stars at 21/22 - takes time to find that player.

Must be the same rule you have for Packers fans.

Fair enough - we're on the same page with Richardson. If you take him you're taking that home run swing (to follow up on that home run swing you took by trading away every-fuging-thing to get to #1 overall). It's the brass balls on the table, "I trust my expensively assembled coaching staff to improve this player" move - and really it's just the short accuracy you have to work on. That's a footwork issue 'cos he's so inexperienced and was surrounded by dogshit coaches in Florida (and dogshit receivers tbf).

He has embraced mental health - he's distanced himself from a (very marketable) nickname that associates him with mass school shootings.

I'm surprised it took that long. Every game I've watched of his I've sat up in my chair and thought "Damn". I've said a few times he's going to get GMs fired. I can see us looking back in 5 years and saying "well it's nice that Stroud is a consistent Top 15 / 20 QB, but how did we pass over league MVP Richardson again?"

The NFL coaches don't even focus on the Draft until the season is over - they listen to the scouts, but they make their own judgements. You need to give them as much time as possible to actually evaluate the players and with the NFL stupidly adding an extra game that means less offseason for them to do so.

Why waste what? We've simply upgraded our WR and TE rooms to lower-mid league standard. It had to be done regardless of who we drafted to play QB.

I enjoy O'Sullivan's videos - albeit he's not too hot on the overall evaluations it seems - but I appreciate how detailed he gets with the footwork / play concept breakdown. Really gives you an insight into what the players are working with and what they have to work on. I just think Warner says more with less.

I almost pie'd this. To me if Richardson anywhere near pans out he's a superstar. That said the more I watch Stroud (and specifically his trajectory) the more I think he could easily be a perennial top 10 QB in the NFL. I think Young will bust - but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

If they take Richardson (they won't) then he's won them over since the trade. It supports the theory that they made the trade without a definitive QB in mind 'cos you don't make that move based on his college stats / how fast he runs. You've been blown away by the tape and his interviews.

Dalton has better career stats than Cam Newton...

A) You can't ignore the size. B) I'm not sure he does have the best tape (especially when it comes to projection)

I mean you don't have a first round pick or second round pick next year to replace him. You also, basically, gave away McCaffrey to make this trade happen too (we traded THAT second round pick).

Warner, very quietly, is probably putting out the best videos out of Simms / JT O'Sullivan / McCown etc. Helps that they were all journeymen and he's a Hall of Famer I guess.

I mean we gave up a metric ton for the pick. If we get it wrong we've set the franchise back 3 years.

Cockblocked again. Always the same with these Panthers.

50/50. It's the NFL - you have to have clear certain physical requirements to even sniff the league. The coaching ranks are full of really smart ex-QBs who couldn't physically hack it in the NFL.

And Young's stats dropped off considerably when his WRs left - if we're playing that game (Stroud's didn't).

Does Curry regularly take hits from 300lb men in pads?

Don't make me pull out the recruiting rankings again, cos I will. He was at Alabama, not UAB.

It was 3 years ago, but the whole point is you're meant to IMPROVE in College - and again in the NFL.

LOL I respect his analysis, but damn judging the players based on who they were as High School Seniors...

I think Richardson is further along mentally than you give him credit for, but the rest is fair.

I mean he's thrown for 85 TDs, 6 INTs and 8,123 yards in his two years as a starter (with a marginal drop off as a Junior when he lost two first round WRs to the NFL). It's not like the Georgia game was the only one that he showed out in.

For me, echoing what's been said elsewhere, you have to take Stroud of the two. If you take Young and he breaks / you have to throw out half the playbook then you deserve to be fired. If Stroud doesn't work... you still deserve to be fired for the trade, but at least you might get another job. I'd also argue that if you look into the prospects - in terms of projection, Stroud has followed a more traditional path of improving every year and earning his playing time. Young is basically a QB prodigy (started as a FR in High School and transferred to a powerhouse High School) who never I fear is just never going to be big enough to play in the NFL. I'd personally gamble it all on Richardson, but that's me.