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How many did the SEC field then, 3?

They gave up THREE first round picks for the #3 overall pick. Why are they bowing up and saying everyone bought their smokescreen now? I think we had a very lucky escape with Adam Peters.

I was going to say, nobody has mentioned Smith as a YAC guy, which leads me to believe he's not a return candidate.

Not my type, but good luck to all four of them, I hope they're happy. Fingers crossed Berrios sticks on the roster in NY. They've brought in a lot of WRs and he always seems to be low on the totem pole in the pros.

I see Moore as a C in the NFL - shorter, but long arms with a good base, can get to the second level and plays with a nasty demeanor. It's not a coincidence that they put him at C in the Senior Bowl - they saw something in practice. As for Brown - he's at 340something now. Rhule stated that maybe he's just a 340lb guy - personally I think they try to get him down to 330lb or below. I just don't think they could pass over that ability in the 6th round. You don't start 2 years at Alabama if you're not talented. If he busts because he can't keep his weight down then that's just the nature of the Draft. I do wonder how high we were on Spencer Brown - he was coached by the Dolphins so we didn't get a hands on look at him.

The system worked (and works now in San Francisco) because it moves the line of scrimmage. You're not allowed to cut block anywhere near as much as you were allowed to back in the Portis / Davis days. If you watch any of their highlights the line of scrimmage is like a war zone - there's bodies on the ground everywhere. I don't think it's fair to call them poor RBs though, they're just system guys - decisive one cut runners. Like Foster in Houston. Now you move the line of scrimmage laterally and allow the RB to pick his holes based on how the D reacts. It's not about putting a hat on a hat and blowing guys off the line of scrimmage. It's about asking those Dlinemen to cover more than just the immediate ground in front of them.

I mean they were also looking for the best players they could draft. Maybe they thought a potential shutdown corner / potential #1 WR was better value than a guy that would just be thrown into the mix at OL. We have A LOT of guys heading into camp on the Oline. I'm pretty certain they've got no idea how that's going to pan out, besides picking the best 5 guys and making it work. You could see any combination of players - it'll be an open competition. If they didn't think one of the guys we passed up before Christensen was going to nail down one of those jobs, but loved Marshall / Horn then why take them?

Double post.

That Hubbard rumour needs to die. That was Rhule joking around with a Draft pick on the phone. Watch his reaction when it was brought up in the post-Draft press conference. With a face like thunder he said something like "I love my wife dearly, but no she was not involved with this Draft." I think EJ is wrong on Nixon btw - he's far too quick and agile to just be written off as a bullrusher.

I think the Bucs had a terrible Draft.

Joe Tryon and Payton Turner.

He more than held his own against two first round DEs picked this year. If I'm Rhule I'm giving Christensen every chance to fail at LT in TC / the preseason.

X-Clown and it's not even close.

They might want to consider putting him back where they found him.

I don't know if you took a gander at the Jets roster this past season, but when Crowder is your #1 you're bold faced tanking. It's rare though, I agree.

Newton strikes me as the type of guy to walk away from the game before he'd accept being a backup.

I don't think we do. He's had McCown and Flacco in his ear for two of his three years in the league. It's time to spread his wings and fly.

That's the only question, really. I would never, ever go into a season with just 2 QBs on the roster (fug having a guy on the PS). How those 3 breaks down depends on your situation - could be 3 guys competing for the job, or a bonafide starter, a good backup and a developmental guy. Either way it's the most important position in sports. I'm not ready to write off Grier just yet. We know what we have in Walker - a guy that can spot start, but he's not someone to bank on. If Stevens beats out any of those guys based on his ability to throw a football and read a defence then fantastic - the other stuff he can do is gravy. You make a good point though - Rhule loves versatility and Brady threw the guy into games last year, so he's got to be a front runner for a roster spot.

Can someone check whether Trainwreck has gone off the rails since the Draft, or has he / she / they always been like this? If it's a recent thing, by George, I think I've found the catalyst.

Because Matt Rhule is here to win football games.

It's too early to write some of those players off, especially with COVID opt outs. That said I never have high hopes for a Hurney Draft. We'll know for sure this year.

Everyone's a bust until proven otherwise. It's was just easier to get Hurney Drafts that way.

I wobbled with the first bold, and you lost me with the second one. The WTFs finished with a 7-9 record. Rivera backing his way into the Playoffs is not to be commended - nor was it when he did it here. They've got some absolute ballers on that WTFs team - that Dline is nasty. That said, they're worse than us (as evidenced by us defeating them last season), but they played in a pathetic division. Unlike the murderer's row that we find ourselves in.

Cam Newton.

That's a very, very high bar. I hope he clears it.